In this episode of the Hiring Excellence Podcast, Johnny Campbell sits down with Ryan Stene, VP of Global Talent Attraction and Engagement at Wells Fargo. Ryan shares his personal journey from being laid off—twice—to navigating the hiring process himself and learning hard truths about how candidate experience is really delivered. Together, they unpack the key moments that matter most in a hiring journey, how teams can scale empathy, and why candidate experience is the most powerful expression of your employer brand.