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In this soup du jour, we have esteemed (and unofficial) musical theater critic Kyle Frattini (on Instagram as @KFratt) on the pod to talk all things floppy in the world of Broadway musicals (including & Juliet, Once Upon a One More Time, Bad Cinderella, and more). Is musical theater doomed? Can the Marvel-ization of Broadway musicals ever be stopped? How about those floppy jukebox pop girl musicals? And WHAT are we going to do about stunt casting? (Betty Who we see you!)

Plus: what exactly IS a fuck ass bob? Why are people mobbing Jack Antonoff’s wedding? Finally, we reflect on a few of the floppy slow-news headlines we've seen courtesy of the combination actor and writer strike. It's a big week of floppy questions!

Links!
Quick Flops:
Kim Kardashian Gets Fuck Ass Bob
'Nsync Set to Reunite for a Song for 3rd Trolls Movie
Selena Gomez Has New Single Coming Out Soon Called... "Single Soon"
Jack Antonoff's LBI Wedding Guest Taylor Swift Disrupts New Jersey

Slow News Cycle Recap:
Pop Crave: The Blue Team Won the First Ever Disney Channel Games (???)
"Succession" Actress Crystal Finn Victim of Otter Attack
Film Updates: 5 Years Ago, The Wife starring 8-time Oscar Nominee Glenn Close released in Theaters
NPR: Charles Martinet, The Original Voice of Mario, Stepping Down

Flop in Focus: Musical Theater
Faux-Feminist Pop musicals: Vox
Chicago Stunt Casting: People Mag
Waitress Stunt Casting Generator
Andrea Long Chu Roasts Andrew Lloyd Webber: Vulture
At least there's Hadestown: NYTimes

Local Flops:
PHL: Blue Beetle ad adorns the Philadelphia Museum of Art stairs
and Philly is Pissed
LA: Los Angeles Hurriquake

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On this week's soup, we bring to you another Flop in Focus with our very lovely guest Jaime Chialastri! They help us cover all things Taylor Swift -- specifically the re-recording journey she is taking the entire world on, and how a lot of it is flopping (in our hearts, never in the context of capitalism #SlaySwiftSlay). Plus: we talk about BIG GAY CINEMA'S newest entry: Red, White, & Royal Blue, and the floppy Las Vegas Sphere.

Red, White, & Royal Blue:
Glowing??? Review from San Francisco Chronicle: https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/movies-tv/red-white-royal-blue-review-18283641
Negative Review from Vulture: https://www.vulture.com/article/red-white-and-royal-blue-review-make-it-make-sense.html

Flop in Focus: Taylor Swift Re-Recordings
Why Taylor Swift is Re-Recording Her Masters: https://www.vox.com/culture/22278732/taylor-swift-re-recording-1989-speak-now-enchanted-mine-master-rights-scooter-braun
Every Taylor Swift Vault Track So Far Ranked: https://www.billboard.com/lists/taylor-swift-taylors-version-songs-ranked-from-the-vault/
Where are we with Taylor Swift Re-Recordings? https://www.vulture.com/2023/08/taylor-swift-rerecorded-albums-which-album-is-next.html

Local Flop:
Las Vegas Sphere ("the world's largest spherical structure"): https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/05/travel/msg-sphere-las-vegas-venue-cec/index.html

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We have an extremely online episode in store for you today, dear listeners! On this week's episode, Justin is out sick so Cassandra and our lovely Producer David get into the latest internet-based hot flopics that have taken over our timelines.

The Eurodance parody Planet of the Bass is the song of the summer, but why does DJ Crazy Times keep floppily changing the girl in his videos? Plus: white people flopped this weekend in Montgomery, Alabama, inciting what's now being called "the boat brawl." 

Later, Cassandra and David explore their inner Rat Girls (or lack thereof), and decide whether or not this has truly been a Rat Girl Summer for the world. Brave! And finally: we consider how that cop ended up going so fast down that slide.

Quick Flops:
Chris Christie Gifts “It’s My Life" Lyrics
El Salvador Funeral Home Has Barbie-Themed Coffins
Jeopardy to Recycle Old Clues due to Writers’ Strike
Noah Schnapp Comes Out to Millie Bobby Brown
Jameela Jamil Supports Lizzo (Twitter link)

Hot Flopics:
Kyle Gordon Eurodance Parody “Planet of the Bass” feat. Ms. Biljana Electronica
Eurodance Wikipedia Page
Vox Explainer of Planet of the Bass

Alabama Boat Brawl
Daily Mail Coverage
Chair Earrings (Sadly Sold Out)
Explainer from The Guardian

Rat Girl Summer

Boston Cop Slide
Slate Physics Explainer
Defector Investigation into what the heck is going on here

Local Flops
PHL: Pennsylvania Landlords Should Be Paying You Interest
China: Bear at Chinese Zoo is NOT Human in Costume
Japan: Man Dresses up as Border Collie

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On this week's episode, we dish on how the aliens flopped their hard launch last week, and explore the many ways in which celebs fear and/or celebrate our flops from a galaxy far far away. We also unpack the newest pop offering from Britney Spears and frequent collaborator will.i.am. Spoiler! We aren't obsessed, and we're also concerned about the state of Britney Spears' legacy [see (but don't see) Once Upon a One More Time].  After getting into our local flops of the week, we examine the recently announced Spy Kids reboot movie in the ol' Floposcope.

Links!
Quick Flops:
Cardi B Mic Toss
Bye bye blue Twitter birdy
Tiktok NPC-Imitator Pinkydoll releasing single "Ice Cream So Good"
Barbie Fart Opera
Taco Bell Accused of Skimping on Beef
#SawPatrol
Florida Ocean Reaches Hot Tub Temps
Free Subs If You Change Your Name to…Subway

Hot Flopics:
Aliens Flop Their Hard Launch:
Vox Explainer
“Non-Human Biologics”

Mind Your Business, Flop!
Will.i.am and Britney Release Single
GMA Performance of “Circus” from Once Upon a One More Time

Local Flops:
PHL: Raccoon in Philly Airport Baggage Claim
LA: “How” to take public transit to SoFi Stadium for Taylor Swift

Floposcope:
They’re Rebooting Spy Kids For Some Reason

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On this Soup du Jour, we bring on a very special guest in our reoccurring segment called Flop in Focus! This week, we cover the flops of The Real Housewives (no franchise is safe). We start with a history of its host channel (Bravo), and then delve into the good, the bad, and the floppy. 

Sad to be missing out on other flops? Don't worry, we turn our quick flops into medium flops this week so you'll still get your fix :) We also round it all out with our thoughts on Barbenheimer release weekend.

Links!
Quick Flop Sources:
- Gwenyth Paltrow Insta Q&A: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/15/gwyneth-paltrow-addresses-whether-she-licks-ass-in-nsfw-qa/
- Ben Platt cuts Rolling Stone interview short: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/15/pitch-perfect-star-ben-platt-shuts-down-nepo-baby-question/
- Joe Jonas pooping on stage: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/14/joe-jonas-needed-therapy-after-pooping-in-his-pants-on-stage/?dicbo=v2-7FSkQTa
- Jonah Hill stays silent: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/14/jonah-hill-surfs-amid-sarah-brady-alexa-nikolas-abuse-claims/
- ‘RHONY’ star throws up at premiere party: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/13/rhony-star-jessel-taank-throws-up-at-shows-premiere-party/
- Snoop Dogg pet cockroach: https://www.buzzfeed.com/haeinjung/snoop-dogg-cockroach-pet-gooch
- Battle to be the real Barbie: https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/battle-to-be-the-real-barbie-how-two-barbaras-lay-claim-to-inspiring-the-doll-margot-robbie-plays/

Hot Flopics:
- SAG-AFTRA Strike Flops: https://www.vulture.com/article/what-is-the-sag-strike-sag-aftra-questions.html, https://deadline.com/2023/06/kim-kardashian-twitter-american-horror-story-wga-strike-1235423681/, https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/13/business/media/fran-drescher-screen-actors-guild.html
- Troye Sivan Sparks Twink Discourse: https://uproxx.com/pop/troye-sivan-rush-discourse-body-diversity/

Local Flops:
PHL: Closing Greyhound Bus Station: https://billypenn.com/2023/07/06/greyhound-philadelphia-relocates-bus-station-center-city/
LA: Do Birds Have a Right to Privacy?: https://www.latimes.com/lifestyle/story/2023-07-11/my-high-tech-bird-feeder-made-me-wonder-do-birds-have-a-right-to-privacy

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On this week's soup, we cover some flop topics surrounding the SAG-AFTRA strike that kicked off this past week. As we dig deeper into SAG tangents, we uncover further flops -- including the heated election that ended in Fran Drescher snatching the SAG-AFTRA Presidency, as well as Ryan Murphy's many antics while strikes surround his productions.  Turns out a coalition of actors isn't without its own drama. 

We then cover Troye Sivan's Rush music video and all the floppy body-shaming discourse surrounding it. As we dissect our opinions on the matter, we're led right back to the glory days of Padam Padam.

Links!
Quick Flop Sources:
Gwyneth Paltrow Instagram Q&A: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/15/gwyneth-paltrow-addresses-whether-she-licks-ass-in-nsfw-qa/
Ben Platt cuts interview short: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/15/pitch-perfect-star-ben-platt-shuts-down-nepo-baby-question/
Joe Jonas pooping on stage: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/14/joe-jonas-needed-therapy-after-pooping-in-his-pants-on-stage/?dicbo=v2-7FSkQTa
Jonah Hill silently surfs: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/14/jonah-hill-surfs-amid-sarah-brady-alexa-nikolas-abuse-claims/
‘RHONY’ premiere party: https://pagesix.com/2023/07/13/rhony-star-jessel-taank-throws-up-at-shows-premiere-party/
Snoop Dogg' cockroach: https://www.buzzfeed.com/haeinjung/snoop-dogg-cockroach-pet-gooch
Barbie Battle: https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/battle-to-be-the-real-barbie-how-two-barbaras-lay-claim-to-inspiring-the-doll-margot-robbie-plays/

Hot Flopics:
SAG-AFTRA Strike Flops:
https://www.vulture.com/article/what-is-the-sag-strike-sag-aftra-questions.html
https://deadline.com/2023/06/kim-kardashian-twitter-american-horror-story-wga-strike-1235423681/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/13/business/media/fran-drescher-screen-actors-guild.html
Drescher vs. Modine SAG Election

Rush Video Discourse:
https://uproxx.com/pop/troye-sivan-rush-discourse-body-diversity/

Local Flops
PHL: Closing Philly Greyhound Bus Station
LA: Do Birds Have a Right to Privacy?

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On this Soup du Jour, we cover perhaps the biggest flop of all: m-e-n. Though they've been flopping in a big way for a long time, most recently there have been a few men leading the charge in the public spotlight: Jonah Hill and Keke Palmer's (now ex) boyfriend. Then, we partake in what some might call gender essentialism and do a deep dive into the phenomenon of Girl Dinner (google it, it's great). We ponder what Boy Dinner looks like, but stop short of exiting the binary in this moment. Finally, we land on the launch of threads -- which anyone who's anyone knows to stay the f*** off of.
 
Links!
Quick Flop Sources:
Kim Kardashian Sees Her Shadow: https://www.eonline.com/news/1379431/kim-kardashian-is-freaking-out-after-spotting-mystery-shadow-in-her-selfie
Aubrey O'Day Had Sex with Donald Trump Jr. In Gay Bar: https://ew.com/celebrity/danity-kane-singer-aubrey-oday-sex-donald-trump-jr-gay-club-bathroom/
Elon Musk invited Mark Zuckerberg to a ""dick measuring conteset"": https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1678222776908275712?s=20
Camila Cabello shows off her tummy: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12283691/Camila-Cabello-shows-toned-tummy-skimpy-bikini.html
"The Summer of Kramercore": https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/07/kramercore-fashion-trend-seinfeld/674666/
Speak Now Lyric Change: https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-better-than-revenge-taylors-version-lyrics
Guy Fieri was nice to donald trump: https://www.eater.com/23789874/guy-fieri-donald-trump-ufc-drama

Hot Flopics:
Man Flops:
Jonah Hill: https://www.glamour.com/story/jonah-hill-sarah-brady-controversy)
Darius Jackson

• Headline 1
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• Headline 3

Girl Dinner
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/08/style/girl-dinner.html

Local Flops: 
PHL: Philly Restaurant Bankroll Flops

• Billy Penn 
• Philadelphia Inquirer
• Philly Biz Journal 

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On this Soup du Jour, we cover our thoughts on The Bear, Stars on Mars, and a slew of Quick Flops (Netflix releasing Titanic for streaming, Hilaria Baldwin --> Ilaria Baldwin pipeline, Gwen Stefani ranking her own songs wrong).

Then we get into the thick of it with the SHEIN influencers trying to paint the company in a positive, ethical light. Spoiler alert -- they aren't. And then, we get into the Flop Ed of it all, covering both two op eds touching on the topics of sexuality and travel (not related).

Finally, we end with local flops and floposcopes -- this time revisiting 2 of our old reviews. Cassandra has more to say in defense of Platonic, and Justin admits disappointment in Kelly Clarkson.

Show Notes & Links

• Quick Flop Sources:
  •  Titanic Returns to Netflix: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/entertainment/movies/2023/06/28/netflix-titanic-streaming-submersible-disaster/70364390007
  •  MrBeast on the Sub: https://kotaku.com/youtube-mr-beast-titan-titanic-submarine-disaster-1850575265
  •  Drake announces his first poetry book: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/drake-poetry-book-titles-ruin-everything-kenza-samir-1235360905/
  •  Hilara Baldwin named her newest daughter "Ilaria": https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11297653/Hilaria-Baldwin-shares-snap-daughter-Ilaria-husband-Alec-Baldwin-cuddle-baby.html
  •  Billy Porter is bored of wearing the LGBTQ rainbow flag: https://pagesix.com/2023/06/26/billy-porter-is-bored-of-the-lgbtq-rainbow-flag/
  •  Charli XCX on receiving feedback from Lady Gaga: https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct9Q37ju6vR/
  •  Patti LaBelle botches BET Awards tribute to Tina Turner: https://pagesix.com/2023/06/26/patti-labelle-botches-bet-awards-2023-tribute-to-tina-turner-im-trying-yall/
  •  Gwen Stefani ranked 9 of her songs on tiktok: https://ew.com/music/gwen-stefani-frustrates-fans-by-ranking-her-best-songs/
• Hot Flopics:
  •  Influencers Visiting Shein Factory in China: https://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/60204/1/shein-psyop-influencer-trip-factories-exploitation-dani-carbonari-fast-fashion
  •  Flop Eds: 
    • The New Yorker: The Case Against Travel
    • New York Times: As a Gay Man, I'll Never Be Normal

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On this Soup du Jour, we (inevitably) cover the unfortunate Titanic submersible incident that has captured the attention of the nation, Sara-Ramirez-Not-Che Diaz's wild profile for And Just Like That, and Harry and Meghan failing to produce podcast content and subsequently losing a $20 million dollar deal.

Links!
Quick Flop sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkjnZpM3qAc, https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/19/entertainment/bebe-rexha-hurt-performance/index.html, https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-flash-and-elemental-both-flop-in-opening-weekend, https://variety.com/2023/film/news/tcm-layoffs-steven-spielberg-martin-scorsese-david-zaslav-1235651446/, https://www.vulture.com/2023/06/trent-reznor-dua-lipa-levitating.html, https://deadline.com/2023/06/lisa-rinna-american-horror-stories-season-3-1235421455/, https://pagesix.com/2023/06/14/lady-gaga-slammed-over-cringey-ad-for-migraine-drug/

Hot Flopics:
Titanic Sub
Titanic Truthers on TikTok: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/16/business/titanic-tiktok-misinformation.html
Titanic sub(mersible) is missing: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/06/20/us/titanic-missing-submarine
Titanic sub(mersible) probably imploded immediately: https://www.cnn.com/americas/live-news/titanic-missing-sub-oceangate-06-23-23/index.html
Titanic Oceangate sub(mersible) safety concerns long known: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/20/us/oceangate-titanic-missing-submersible.html
Byford Dolphin Accident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin

Che Diaz / Sara Ramirez
The Cut Profile: https://www.thecut.com/article/sara-ramirez-che-diaz-and-just-like-that-profile.html

Meghan & Harry Lose Spotify Podcast Deal - Spotify, Call Us!
LA Times

Local Flops
Philadelphia: I-95 Collapse, Northeast Philly guy explains the I-95 collapse, Mayor Kenney Ignores Biden's Calls
LA: Ava Max slapped at concert

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Hi, gay! On this Soup du Jour, we bring in Producer David while Cassandra galavants in Portugal :) We cover topics like pride month, San Francisco vs. Los Angeles gays, Kelis and Bill Murray dating, the infamous air quality fiasco affecting the northeast of the US, and Justin reports back on our prediction on Platonic -- the AppleTV show starring Rose Byrne and Seth Rogen. 

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