Doc Searls and Jonathan Bennett talk with Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols about what's happening in technology journalism, with the open source world he knows perhaps better than any other journalist on the case, and with where he got started: in space and space technologies. (Bonus fact: Steven digs Starlink, and Jonathan is using it to participate in the show.)

Hosts: Doc Searls and Jonathan Bennett

Guest: Steven Vaughan-Nichols

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