John welcomes celebrated First Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams to discuss Donald Trump’s efforts to stifle and/or prosecute his political opponents. Abrams—who has argued more free-speech cases before the Supreme Court than any attorney and whose clients have ranged from the New York Times in the Pentagon Papers case to Mitch McConnell in Citizens United—explains why Jimmy Kimmel’s reinstatement isn’t likely to end Trump’s legal and regulatory assault on broadcasters and the news media; the indictment of Jim Comey marks a new and dangerous phase in the administration’s weaponization of the legal system; and we are now living in a world where no hypothetical abuse of presidential power is too outlandish to take seriously.

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