Focus on Politics

Focus on Politics: Conversion therapy


Listen Later

Legislation banning gay conversion therapy, a practice described as monstrous and traumatising, is making its way through Parliament but not everyone is on board.

"I was sent to a counsellor who told me that I could change my sexuality ... if you have people who are telling you that you need to change something which is actually fundamental to who you are, it does do lasting damage."

Paul Stevens has first-hand experience of so-called conversion "therapy" - the harmful practice of trying to change someone's sexuality - first hand, but moves to ban it so far have seen confusion and division envelop both Labour and National.

Justice Minister Kris Faafoi introduced the Conversion Practices Prohibition Legislation Bill last Friday.

Justice Minister Kris Faafoi

The bill creates a pathway for civil redress, as well as two new criminal offences:

Up to three years in prison for performing conversion practices on people under 18 years old or with impaired decision-making capacity

Up to five years for conducting conversion practices that cause serious harm

In an interview just hours later however Faafoi struggled to explain it, and did not rule out parents being criminalised for preventing their children from taking hormone blockers.

It was a communications blunder that recalled his disastrous approach to hate speech legislation, and has commentators questioning whether he's just had enough.

Faafoi himself believes he has been clear enough in selling the bill's intention.

"I think we've made it clear what the intent of the bill , it's to make sure we're preventing harm."

The bill is no godsend for National either.

Read more:

Former victim of gay conversion therapy lauds government's move to ban it

Conversion therapy ban legislation passes first reading at Parliament

Young Nats break with party over conversion therapy vote

The trip wires in legislation banning conversion therapy

ACT, National warn of conversion therapy bill 'risk'

Leader Judith Collins signalled in April the party supported a ban, but ahead of its first reading on Thursday justice spokesperson Simon Bridges said the party would not back it without changes, a move that prompted outcry from the party's youth wing.

Political commentator and National Party member Liam Hehir says social issues will always be a sore spot for the party because of its very nature.

"The National Party ... it's a conservative party and a liberal party so there's not going to be a high degree of consensus ... that's just an outcome of being a big-tent party of a broad-church party." …

Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Focus on PoliticsBy RNZ

  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6

4.6

9 ratings


More shows like Focus on Politics

View all
The Interview by BBC World Service

The Interview

363 Listeners

Business News by RNZ

Business News

6 Listeners

Political Fix by Financial Times

Political Fix

155 Listeners

Saturday Morning by RNZ

Saturday Morning

41 Listeners

Parliament - Live Stream and Question Time by RNZ

Parliament - Live Stream and Question Time

3 Listeners

Nine To Noon by RNZ

Nine To Noon

22 Listeners

Sunday Morning by RNZ

Sunday Morning

10 Listeners

Mediawatch by RNZ

Mediawatch

18 Listeners

Pacific Waves by RNZ

Pacific Waves

12 Listeners

Nine To Noon Politics by RNZ

Nine To Noon Politics

3 Listeners

Gone By Lunchtime by The Spinoff

Gone By Lunchtime

25 Listeners

Tagata o te Moana by RNZ

Tagata o te Moana

1 Listeners

The House by RNZ

The House

1 Listeners

Q+A with Jack Tame by Q+A with Jack Tame

Q+A with Jack Tame

4 Listeners

If You're Listening by ABC

If You're Listening

322 Listeners

The Front Page by NZ Herald

The Front Page

12 Listeners

Rural News by RNZ

Rural News

1 Listeners

The Detail by RNZ

The Detail

55 Listeners

MATA with Mihingarangi Forbes by RNZ

MATA with Mihingarangi Forbes

0 Listeners

News in Pacific Languages by RNZ

News in Pacific Languages

1 Listeners

World & Pacific News by RNZ

World & Pacific News

0 Listeners

On the Tiles by NZME

On the Tiles

0 Listeners

RNZ News by RNZ

RNZ News

5 Listeners

30 with Guyon Espiner by RNZ

30 with Guyon Espiner

14 Listeners

ICYMI by RNZ

ICYMI

0 Listeners