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Have you ever thought, “That looks fun,” only to immediately tell yourself you’d look ridiculous, wouldn’t be any good, or have something more useful to do?
Welcome to Reports from the Creative Closet! In this dispatch, I explore play, the third area of practice in my Restorative Creativity Framework™—and my favorite. How did something that once came naturally become something we stop ourselves from doing?
If you’ve been missing the part of yourself that could experiment, be silly, or try something without needing to be good at it, this episode is an invitation to get curious about what happened—and what might still be possible.
In this episode, I discuss:
“I’d Look Ridiculous”: How do we learn to shut down our playful impulses before we give them a chance?
The People We Love to Watch Play: What draws us to Robin Williams and David Tennant—and what might we recognize in them?
Play and the Restorative Creativity Framework™: What could following a seemingly silly impulse help you discover about yourself?
Chapters:
0:00 - “That looks fun—but I’d look ridiculous”
I’m Nancy Norbeck, your Messy Muse Mentor and creator of the Restorative Creativity Framework™. I specialize in using creativity to reconnect people with themselves, so you can make room for things that interest and delight you and feel like you’re actually alive again.
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As an actor, Mark Strickson got to pretend to have adventures—but eventually, that wasn't enough. He wanted to experience the real thing.
Best known to Doctor Who fans as Turlough, Mark went on to study zoology in Australia and build a career in wildlife filmmaking, including making Steve Irwin’s first film. His earlier experiences—as a musician, actor, and member of a theatre company touring Britain by narrowboat—came along with him in unexpected ways.
In this conversation, Mark shares how knocking on an office door landed him his Doctor Who role, why talent and hard work don’t guarantee success, and how a camera off its tripod helped create a different kind of wildlife television.
We also talk about Turlough’s complicated loyalties, the importance of a good script, the satisfaction of making things with your hands, and finding purpose in work that encourages people to care.
In this episode:
• Growing up with music and theatre in Stratford-upon-Avon
Chapters:
0:00 Welcome and introduction
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Come play with us: the free Follow Your Curiosity Creativity Circle is an hour each month to stop overthinking, make something just because you want to, and enjoy some creative company.
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Follow Your Curiosity is created and hosted by creativity expert Nancy Norbeck, creator of the Restorative Creativity Framework™. Music by Joseph McDade.
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Have you ever found yourself getting excited about a new topic, hobby, or idea, only for someone close to you to say, "That doesn't really sound like you"?
Welcome to Follow Your Curiosity! In this dispatch from the Creative Closet, we are diving into integrity—the second area of practice in the Restorative Creativity framework.
We often think of integrity as living by our moral values, but true integrity is also about letting your inside and your outside match up. When you spend your life managing other people's expectations of who you "should" be, you lose the freedom to follow your own curiosity and surprise yourself.
In this episode, I share a personal story about flying across the country to a wine festival by myself, why I refused to bring my friends along, and how making choices without the weight of external expectations is the fastest path back to your real self.
In this episode, I discuss:
“That doesn’t sound like you”: What happens when someone else’s surprise makes you question something you’re excited about.
The freedom of going alone: Why I wanted to experience something new without carrying my friends’ expectations.
Integrity beyond moral values: Letting who you are and how you live match up, with room to discover something new about yourself.
Creativity as reconnection: How experimenting and making your own creative choices help you rediscover your preferences and build self-trust.
One small choice: Where are you fulfilling someone else’s expectations, and what could you choose for yourself today?
Chapters:
0:00 - Why "that doesn't sound like you" ruins your excitement
1:55 - The Oregon wine festival experiment (and why friends were shocked)
3:30 - Why saying NO was a choice to leave expectations behind
5:43 - What integrity really means in my Restorative Creativity Framework™
7:59 - The freedom of choosing who you are in the moment
10:17 - Why creativity is the fastest path back to yourself
14:03 - One small choice to reclaim your freedom today
I’m Nancy Norbeck, your Messy Muse Mentor. I specialize in using creativity to reconnect people with themselves, so you can make room for things that interest and delight you and feel like you’re actually alive again. You do not need to become someone new. You just need to come back to life.
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Have you ever talked yourself out of asking for an opportunity because you decided in advance that the answer would be no?
Welcome to Follow Your Curiosity! My guest this week is #1 New York Times bestselling writer Tony Lee. With nearly forty years of professional writing experience across comics, television, audio dramas, and novels, Tony has written for iconic franchises like Doctor Who, Spider-Man, X-Men, and Star Trek, and has sold over a million crime novels under his pen name Jack Gatland.
In this conversation, Tony and I explore what happens when you stop letting fear dictate your choices and start asking for what you want. We discuss how he landed meetings with both Marvel and DC Comics on the same afternoon, how he pivoted during the pandemic to write and publish 55 novels in five years, and why striving for perfection is the fastest way to keep your art trapped on your computer.
In this episode, we discuss:
Chapters:
0:00 - Storytelling on exam paper backs and camping trips
5:47 - From computer programming to game reviews and street performing
8:28 - Pitching Marvel and DC in a single New York afternoon
10:37 - Why you should never assume a no in advance
17:45 - The pandemic pivot: From comics to 55 novels as Jack Gatland
21:49 - Self-publishing as a publisher who happens to write
28:58 - Writing for Doctor Who, Star Trek, and Marvel
37:57 - The 25 stages of publishing a book (and why writing is only step 1)
48:05 - Why perfectionism kills books and what readers actually care about
53:08 - Why indie creative communities are the land of the Smurfs
56:40 - Finding your way into the room (and what to do when you get there)
I’m Nancy Norbeck, your Messy Muse Mentor. I specialize in using creativity to reconnect people with themselves, so you can make room for things that interest and delight you and feel like you’re actually alive again.
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Check out the full show notes at fycuriosity.com, and join us for the Follow Your Curiosity Creativity Circle.
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Have you ever looked at your life and realized that while everything is functional on paper, you aren't actually present for it?
Welcome to Reports from the Creative Closet! In this dispatch, I'm sharing one of the biggest reasons we feel so drained: we've built a system that treats human beings like machines, and then we do it to ourselves all over again when we get home.
If you are tired of living on autopilot, running on a hamster wheel, and scrolling your evening away because you have nothing left in the tank, this episode is your invitation to step off the track and choose aliveness instead.
In this episode, I discuss:
Chapters:
0:00 - Waking up feeling like a machine
3:26 - The hamster wheel and the carpet track
6:47 - How "shoulds" contaminate your life
9:18 - The efficiency trap: Fitting 20 pounds into a 1-pound bag
13:41 - Creativity as the fastest path back to feeling human
18:00 - The Credit Report, Bingo Cards, and the Liam Neeson rule
I’m Nancy Norbeck, your Messy Muse Mentor. I specialize in using creativity to reconnect people with themselves, so you can make room for things that interest and delight you and feel like you’re actually alive again.
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What if you didn't actually lose your childhood imagination, but simply stopped giving yourself permission to use it?
Welcome to Follow Your Curiosity! In this episode, I'm joined by Haitian-born poet, educator, publisher, and cultural curator Enzo Silon Surin. Enzo is the author of American Scapegoat and When My Body Was a Clenched Fist, the founder of Central Square Press, and an instructor at the Massachusetts College of Art and Design.
Together, we explore why adults tend to define their creativity away, how modern technology tricks us into consuming other people's lives instead of living our own, and how viewing the world through a "poetic lens" can transform the way we ask questions.
In this episode, we discuss:
Episode breakdown:
0:00 - Welcome to Follow Your Curiosity
1:41 - Making kites in Haiti and childhood creativity
3:45 - The dentist debate: Do adults really lose their imagination?
13:58 - Consuming vs. creating: Why we watch others on screens
26:03 - Is technology warping our sense of reality?
37:35 - Poetry as a lens to ask deeper questions
45:29 - Writing "bad" art to trick your inner critic
51:03 - The real reward of art: Helping people feel seen
I’m Nancy Norbeck, your Messy Muse Mentor. I help people feel alive again through curiosity and play.
Get Your Takeaways and Join the Community:
Want more? Here are handy playlists with all my previous interviews with guests in writing.
Check out the full show notes at fycuriosity.com, and join us for the Follow Your Curiosity Creativity Circle.
Please leave a review for this episode—it’s really easy and will only take a minute, and it really helps me reach new listeners. Thanks!
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What is the one decision, pitch, or ticket you’ve been putting off because you’re terrified of what might happen—or what might not?
Welcome to Curiosity Clinic: Proceed at Your Own Risk!
When I set up this series, it never occurred to me that anyone would ask a question about my life. But listener Michael sent in a big one: "What's one curiosity you followed that ended up changing the direction of your life?"
Telling this story turned out to be surprisingly hard. After attempts to write it down this summer, and to record it for the Clinic, ended up being a complete disaster, I decided to practice what I preach: I gave myself permission to do it badly, messy and imperfect.
It’s the story of how a curiosity that started in 2012 with actor Sam Neill’s Twitter account eventually led me to spend $1,500 on an event ticket for the chance to meet him—and from there to New Zealand, some unexpected Doctor Who convention encounters, and, eventually, the creation of Follow Your Curiosity. If you stay with me until the end, it might just give you the nudge you need to change your life, too.
This episode is an invitation to look at the risks you’ve been talking yourself out of and the tickets you haven't bought yet.
I’m Nancy Norbeck, your Messy Muse Mentor. I help people feel alive again through curiosity and play.
Episode breakdown:
0:00 — Welcome to the Curiosity Clinic
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Curiosity Clinic is entertainment and conversation, not professional medical, legal, financial, or other professional advice. I reserve the right to decide which questions I answer.
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You didn’t lose your creative spark. You were taught to leave it behind.
Follow Your Curiosity is a podcast about creativity, curiosity, and what helps us remain fully human in a world that would often prefer us productive, predictable, and disconnected from ourselves.
I’m creativity expert Nancy Norbeck. I created the Restorative Creativity Framework™ and am the creator and host of Follow Your Curiosity.
Every other week, I have in-depth, unscripted conversations with creative people from all walks of life. We talk about how they found their way into their work, what shaped them, the detours they never expected, and what they’ve learned about living a creative life.
On alternating weeks, I share Reports from the Creative Closet: solo episodes about perfectionism, people-pleasing, creative disconnection, curiosity, agency, and what can happen when you stop trying to do adulthood correctly and start listening to yourself again. Some explore the ideas behind the Restorative Creativity Framework™, including its six interconnected areas of practice: Humanity, Integrity, Play, Reconnection, Presence, and Community.
You don’t need to be an artist, and you don’t need another project to complete perfectly. You only need a little curiosity about what might make you feel more like yourself.
Start wherever your curiosity takes you.