In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Mark Usher discuss his book 'Following Nature's Lead,' and explore the intrinsic connection between humanity and nature. Together they explore the importance of living in harmony with the environment, the false dualism that separates humans from nature, and the need to respect natural limits. Dr. Usher draws on classical literature and indigenous wisdom to critique modern capitalism and advocates for a more sustainable and equitable approach to life and economy.

Make sure to check out Dr. Usher's book: Following Nature’s Lead: Ancient Ways of Living in a Dying World 👉 https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691249202/

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Who thinks that they can subdue Leviathan? Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. When it rises up, the mighty are terrified. Nothing on earth is its equal. It is without fear. It looks down on all who are haughty; it is king over all who are proud. 

These words inspired PJ Wehry to create Chasing Leviathan. Chasing Leviathan was born out of two ideals: that truth is worth pursuing but will never be subjugated, and the discipline of listening is one of the most important habits anyone can develop. 

Every episode is a dialogue, a journey into the depths of a meaningful question explored through the lens of personal experience or professional expertise.