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Funga

Josh Parrish (LinkedIn)

Today, I’m joined by Josh Parrish, Chief Growth Officer at Funga.

Josh explains how restoring the forest soil microbiome with native mycorrhizal fungi can meaningfully improve tree survival and boost growth rates in intensively managed Southern pine plantations, without relying on synthetic inputs.

We explore the science and technology behind Funga’s approach, including DNA sequencing, machine learning analysis of fungal communities, nursery inoculation methods, and large-scale field trials across 12 US states. Josh also explains why degraded below-ground biodiversity is one of the most overlooked risks in modern forestry and long-term forest investment.

Josh shares early evidence showing up to 30 percent gains in productivity, outlines Funga’s carbon removal business model, and describes how their 30-year lease structure works for landowners. We end with a discussion about what high-profile carbon removal buyers such as Netflix may signal for the future of regenerative forestry and nature-based climate solutions.

00:00] Intro and welcome

[00:19] Meet Josh Parrish, Chief Growth Officer at Funga

[00:32] Favourite tree: the white oak

[02:01] Josh’s background and journey to Funga

[04:16] What is the forest soil microbiome?

[04:42] Mycorrhizal fungi explained

[07:11] Why below-ground biodiversity matters

[08:22] Why nobody talks about soil health

[09:48] Technology behind Funga’s approach

[11:00] What happens to forest soils after harvest

[14:14] Risks of a degraded microbiome

[16:19] How landowners can assess soil health

[17:25] How Funga inoculates seedlings

[18:25] The nursery partnership and process

[21:10] How prescriptions for inoculation are created

[23:11] How to identify inoculated roots

[24:02] Control vs. inoculated seedlings

[27:00] Early results and productivity gains

[29:45] Restoration vs synthetic inputs

[30:19] Funga’s business model

[31:56] The 30-year carbon lease

[33:02] Carbon methodology and enhanced sequestration

[37:02] Partnership with Netflix

[40:02] Scaling awareness with landowners

[41:32] What’s next for Funga

[43:31] Advice for new forest investors

[44:36] Closing

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Anton Timpers (LinkedIn)

FMO

Today on Forest Invest, I am joined by Anton Timpers, Manager of Agriculture, Food and Forestry at FMO, the Dutch entrepreneurial development bank.

Anton explains how FMO approaches forestry as part of its wider agribusiness and sustainable land-use strategy. We discuss how the bank invests across the full forestry life cycle, from early-stage plantation projects to mature industrial forestry in emerging markets. Anton also outlines why FMO continues to support sustainable plantation forestry as a cornerstone of the future bio-based economy.

We explore the role of blended finance and concessional capital in crowding in private investment, and how development finance institutions can help reduce risk in frontier and emerging markets. Anton highlights the environmental and social safeguards FMO applies to avoid deforestation, ensure certification, and prevent greenwashing in forestry projects.

Anton also shares FMO’s ambition to invest up to 1 billion euros in forestry and sustainable land use by 2030. We talk about the challenge of finding truly bankable forestry projects in fragmented markets across Latin America, Africa and Asia, and what potential investees need to have in place before approaching a development finance institution like FMO.

[00:23] Meet today’s guest: Anton Timpers (FMO)

[00:34] Favourite tree

[01:02] Anton’s background and intro to FMO

[02:05] Building FMO’s forestry focus

[02:33] What makes FMO’s approach unique

[03:58] Investing across the asset maturity spectrum

[04:45] Co-investors and partners

[06:03] Appetite from commercial investors

[06:32] Plantation forestry vs natural forests

[08:20] Conservation, restoration and carbon risks

[10:13] Safeguards, certification and due diligence

[11:29] Why forestry moved into the agri team

[13:04] Standards, safeguards and risk frameworks

[14:26] FMO’s €1 billion forestry goal

[15:53] Main obstacles and fragmented markets

[17:49] Industrial demand and medium-sized enterprises

[20:01] Illegal logging and market realities

[21:47] Small global community of forestry investors

[23:21] What potential investees should know

[25:14] What to prepare before approaching FMO

[27:07] Direct equity vs fund-led co-investments

[27:50] COP discussions, pledges and Brazil focus

[29:39] Carbon credits, accounting and market gaps

[31:03] Positive momentum from COP

[32:06] Geographic focus: LatAm, Africa, Asia

[33:29] Concessional capital and early-stage funding

[35:36] How to approach FMO with an opportunity

[36:00] Final reflections

[36:11] Actionable advice for first-time forest investors

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Tāmata Hauhā

Blair Jamieson on LinkedIn

In today’s episode, I’m joined by Blair Jamieson, CEO and Co-Founder of Tāmata Hauhā, a New Zealand–based company leading the way in Māori land investment, carbon forestry, and sustainable land-use transformation. Blair shares how his background in government shaped the creation of this mission-driven organisation, which helps Indigenous Māori landowners unlock economic opportunities by developing under-utilised land into long-term, intergenerational assets that generate both social impact and financial returns.

We explore the realities and complexities of Māori land ownership and why building trust requires what Blair calls a “thousand cups of tea” approach — patient, relationship-centred engagement grounded in cultural respect. Blair explains how Tāmata Hauhā blends cultural integrity with commercial pragmatism, collaborating with more than 70 Indigenous groups to establish forests that deliver economic, community, climate, and biodiversity benefits.

Blair also breaks down New Zealand’s Emissions Trading Scheme (NZ ETS), offering rare insights into how this compliance-based carbon market provides credibility, transparency, and liquidity unmatched by most voluntary carbon systems. We discuss the company’s investment model, expected returns, and its expansion into the Chatham Islands, where carbon forestry is reshaping remote communities and supporting nature-based climate solutions.

Chapters

00:00 – Welcome & Introduction

00:23 – Meet Blair Jamieson & Tāmata Hauhā

01:21 – What the Company Does

02:25 – Blair’s Background in Government

03:17 – Forestry as an Economic Enabler for Māori Land

04:12 – Working with 70+ Indigenous Groups

05:05 – Community Impact & Commercial Returns

06:11 – Māori Land Ownership Explained

09:39 – The “Thousand Cups of Tea” Approach

12:39 – Māori Leadership Within the Company

14:29 – History of Radiata & NZ Forestry

17:35 – Moving Beyond Pine Monoculture

20:06 – Nurse Crops & Native Regeneration

22:27 – NZ Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) Overview

24:30 – How NZU Compliance Markets Work

31:51 – Carbon Prices & Market Dynamics

33:38 – Investment Model Explained

35:26 – Chatham Islands Projects

39:35 – Māori vs Moriori: Cultural Context

41:48 – Main Risks: Politics, Not Integrity

45:12 – What’s Next for Tāmata Hauhā

47:17 – Scaling & International Interest

47:51 – Final Advice for New Forestry Investors

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Global Forest Generation

Acción Andina

Florent Kaiser (LinkedIn)

Earthshot Prize

In this episode, I’m joined by Florent Kaiser, CEO of Global Forest Generation and co-lead of Acción Andina, winner of the 2023 Earthshot Prize. Florent shares how a grassroots movement born in the Peruvian Andes has evolved into a six-country restoration effort—reviving the world’s highest forests by combining Indigenous principles of Ayni (reciprocity) and Minka (collective service) with modern science, technology, and climate finance.

We explore what authentic community engagement looks like in practice, how to balance trust and expectations in long-term partnerships, and why forest restoration must begin by listening—to people, to landscapes, and to water.

Florent also outlines the next phase of Acción Andina’s mission: linking forest restoration and water security to attract new forms of capital, and inviting investors to build relationships rooted in dignity, co-ownership, and respect.

Chapters

[00:00] Welcome & introduction – Shauna Matkovich and Florent Kaiser (Global Forest Generation / Acción Andina)

[01:00] From childhood curiosity to creating a global forest movement

[03:00] Founding Acción Andina and Global Forest Generation

[07:30] How Indigenous principles of Ayni and Minka guide restoration

[12:30] What real community leadership and engagement look like

[17:00] Winning the Earthshot Prize and what it means for restoration

[21:30] Building trust and managing expectations with local partners

[33:00] Linking forest restoration with water security and long-term finance

[49:00] Blending ancient wisdom with modern tools and innovation

[54:00] Advice for investors: visit, listen, and invest in relationships

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The Carbon Paradox

Terra Impact Ventures

Renat Heuberger

Renat Heuberger, CEO of Terra Impact Ventures and author of The Carbon Paradox, joins host Shauna Matkovich to explore why the forest carbon market is both vital and fiercely debated. He unpacks key paradoxes — from the “baseline” paradox that rewards past deforestation to the “leakage,” “control,” and “transparency” paradoxes that trap project developers between local realities, investor demands, and media scrutiny.

Heuberger reflects on his exit from South Pole, the damage caused by polarised climate debates, and why scrapping REDD+ would mean abandoning the only proven tool to protect forests still disappearing today. Through his fiction-based narrative, he aims to reach readers outside the carbon bubble — including his 80-year-old mother — and believes the next wave of forest-climate leadership will come from students and founders ready to reshape the story.

His message to investors: now is the moment to “buy the dip” in forest carbon — for those patient enough to ride out the noise.

0:00 Intro – Welcome to Forest Invest

0:19 Guest intro – Renat Heuberger, Terra Impact Ventures & The Carbon Paradox

1:18 Origins – First encounters with deforestation in Indonesia

2:25 Building South Pole and early carbon-market journey

4:43 The first paradox – Putting a price on nature

6:11 Why write a fiction-based book about carbon markets

7:42 Writing for readers outside the climate bubble

9:40 The power of storytelling over white papers

10:40 Key paradoxes – Baseline, Leakage, Community

16:00 The Control Paradox – Who really decides how forest funds are used

22:31 The Ideologists Paradox – Attacks from left and right

25:19 The Transparency Paradox – When openness invites criticism

27:14 Meet the protagonists – Three students on a climate mission

29:25 Reconciling forests as moral duty vs market asset

33:04 New ideas – Pricing nature, not just carbon

35:17 Political cycles, slow progress, and REDD+ lessons

37:24 Rebirth of the Dream – Why narrative change matters

39:30 Raising a questioning generation

41:34 Leaving South Pole – What really happened

45:25 Silver linings and new beginnings

47:03 Who should read The Carbon Paradox – Greta Thunberg & President Prabowo

49:50 Message to project developers – Hang in there

51:23 Investor takeaway – “Buy the dip” in forest carbon

53:00 Where to find the book & Renat’s work

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REDD++ Business Initiative

Treevive

In this episode, Shauna Matkovich speaks with Michel Schuurman, Director of Business Development at TreeVive and Chair of the REDD+ Business Initiative, about the slowdown in corporate demand for avoided deforestation credits and why REDD+ remains the most scalable, cost-effective way to protect tropical forests.

Drawing on two decades in sustainability and climate finance, Michel explains how reputational risks and investment barriers are stalling progress, and why jurisdictional nesting alone won’t move fast enough. He outlines what high-integrity REDD+ looks like — community-driven design, FPIC, shorter MRV cycles, and national alignment — and calls for continued private-sector engagement.

His message: don’t wait for perfection — keep REDD+ in the portfolio, or we lose forests faster than finance flows.

0:23 Guest introduction – Michel Schuurman, TreeVive & REDD+ Business Initiative

1:26 Michel’s professional journey and path into forest carbon finance

5:15 Major shifts in forest carbon and avoided-deforestation markets

6:25 Role of the private sector vs governments and NGOs in forest protection

8:52 Why carbon remains the key measurable value metric

10:54 Challenges with valuing intact forests and improving REDD+ mechanisms

13:17 Overview of REDD+ Business Initiative report and its aims

17:01 Addressing media criticism and project integrity in REDD+

19:26 What’s improving in methodologies and MRV tools

19:27 Three biggest financing gaps in forest protection

21:17 Corporate reputational risk and reluctance to engage

22:39 Policy and Article 6 uncertainty as a major barrier

24:33 Market slowdown and optimism for renewed momentum

26:15 What defines a high-integrity REDD+ project design

27:12 Community engagement, FPIC and benefit-sharing models

29:34 Technical integrity: baselines, MRV cycles, permanence and leakage

31:53 Investor profiles suited to REDD+ projects

33:00 Why institutional capital hesitates and the funding-size gap

35:49 Why capital isn’t flowing despite low ticket sizes

37:06 State of impact and philanthropic investment in REDD+

38:13 Jurisdictional vs private-project approaches and time lags

40:22 How developers can de-risk and protect their projects

41:02 Emerging insurance and policy-risk products

41:40 Blended-finance tools to mobilize private capital

44:13 Final call to action – keep forest protection in portfolios

45:26 Role of media and balanced reporting

48:00 Closing remarks and where to find the REDD+ Business Initiative report

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Today, I’m joined by Niamh McCarthy, Senior Director of Climate-Related Risk, and Alexandre Köberle, Senior Fellow at Orbitas—an initiative of Climate Advisors. We explore their report Room to Grow: The Economic Case for Forest Restoration in Brazil, showing how climate transitions open new investment pathways in Brazil’s land economy. Orbitas’ scenario analysis quantifies financial risks and opportunities in forestry and agriculture, revealing a $141 billion restoration potential and 369,000 new jobs by 2050. Niamh and Alexandre share where large-scale restoration makes economic sense, how blended finance, green bonds, and carbon markets are evolving, and why local expertise and due diligence are vital for investors in Brazil.

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[2:42] What Orbitas does — assessing climate-related risks and opportunities

[6:21] Scenario analysis and transition risk explained

[7:23] Using TCFD framework and standard terminology

[9:22] Brazil report — “Room to Grow: The Economic Case for Forest Restoration”

[10:08] Methodology and headline findings

[11:27] Agricultural drivers and degraded pasturelands

[12:23] Profitability and financing mechanisms

[13:37] Political will and policy alignment in Brazil

[14:43] Surprises and confirmations in the analysis

[17:01] Why focus on Brazil versus other countries

[19:15] Regional focus — where restoration makes most sense

[21:19] Importance of the Amazon and Cerrado ecosystems

[23:10] Hydrological and climate resilience links

[26:14] Investment risk, transparency, and blended finance

[30:35] Restoration archetypes and financing mechanisms

[33:39] Emerging trends — agroforestry and new markets

[35:35] Carbon markets, ETS, and biodiversity credits

[39:12] How climate transitions affect profitability

[42:29] Market proximity and economic feasibility

[43:00] What investors should ask before investing

[45:15] Importance of due diligence and local partnerships

[46:10] Calls to action for government and corporations

[48:49] Policy implementation and land governance challenges

[50:30] Role of other stakeholders and communities

[51:34] Ensuring fair distribution of returns

[52:22] Corporate responsibility and supply chain influence

[54:18] Profitability even without strong transitions

[55:06] Final advice for new forest investors

[57:10] Building trust and long-term partnerships

[57:38] Closing thoughts and where to learn more

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In this episode, I speak to Jen Stebbing, a communications strategist working at the intersection of climate, nature, and markets. Jen shares her key takeaways from New York Climate Week, where forests are increasingly being seen as essential infrastructure rather than “nice-to-haves.” We discuss the emerging portfolio approach to forest finance—integrating conservation, restoration, improved management, and avoided deforestation—to help investors and policymakers see the full picture. Jen also shares insights on Brazil’s leadership through the Tropical Forests Forever Facility (TFFF), the role of blended finance and philanthropy in catalyzing capital, and the importance of risk-sharing models that protect communities. She encourages listeners to explore the Forest Finance Roadmap as a key resource for developing new forest investment strategies.

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Jen Stebbing

Jen Stebbing (LinkedIn)

TFFF - Tropical Forest Forever Facility

Generation Restoration: How to Fix Our Relationship Crisis with Mother Nature (book)

HIFOR - A single investment, with multiple benefits

[0:00] Welcome and introduction

[0:21] Meet Jen Stebbing

[2:00] Highlights from New York Climate Week

[5:00] Forests as essential infrastructure

[8:46] The portfolio approach to forest finance

[11:41] Indigenous leadership and equity

[13:42] Brazil’s TFFF and the Forest Finance Roadmap

[18:13] Risk-sharing and community protection

[21:47] Blended finance and the Restoration Generation

[29:05] Overcoming capital-raising challenges

[33:03] Optimism and collaboration in climate finance

[34:10] Final advice for forest investors

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In this episode, Shauna is interviewed by Matthew Kristoff of the Your Forest Podcast. In this conversation, they talk about what it means to invest in forests today – starting with the basics. Can individuals invest in forests? What is the traditional timberland investment model, and why doesn't it fit in most of Canada? Shauna shares insights on how timber remains a key driver of forest investment returns, but that new investors are approaching the asset class as part of a broader strategy that also values biodiversity, carbon, and cultural outcomes. They explore how investors can begin to account for forest benefits that have historically been valued existentially rather than financially, from climate resilience to community well-being. The discussion touches on practical pathways for finance—such as Indigenous partnerships, accessing secondary markets like biomass for bioenergy, and fire risk mitigation—that could open new pathways for forest investment in Canada.

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[00:11] Introduction by Shauna – framing forest investment basics

[02:32] Matthew opens – news about the podcast winding down

[04:55] Introducing guest Shauna Matkovich and The Forest Link

[15:56] Putting a value on biodiversity and carbon

[22:06] How timberland investment began and pension fund role

[29:42] Beyond carbon credits – biodiversity and risk reduction strategies

[33:44] Partnerships and aligning different capital objectives

[37:12] Timber, biodiversity, and investor–manager roles

[42:03] KPIs and impact pathways for investors

[44:28] Linking financial and ecological objectives

[52:58] Public vs private land investment opportunities

[01:17:51] Spectrum of investors – safe returns vs impact

[01:24:00] How forest investment might change management in 30–50 years

[01:31:44] Final reflections – facilitators of change and investor roles

[01:33:01] Closing thanks and outro

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In this episode, I speak with Dr. Virginia Dale, Research Professor at the University of Tennessee, about forest bioenergy, biomass energy, and sustainable forest management. We explore how post-harvest waste, sawdust, and rejected logs can be transformed into biomass pellets that generate renewable energy while lowering wildfire and insect risks.

Virginia explains why the carbon footprint of bioenergy depends on the carbon cycle, landscape scale, and timeframe. We also discuss bioenergy with carbon capture and storage (BECCS), certification standards, and transparent monitoring to strengthen trust. The conversation highlights economic opportunities for rural communities, the challenges of inland transport, and the limits of bioenergy when it fails to meet sustainability goals.

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Dr. Virginia Dale's University of Tennessee profile

[00:00] Introduction and welcome

[00:36] Virginia Dale’s favourite tree and climate change insights

[01:21] Academic background and path to mathematical ecology

[02:26] Why bioenergy is central to her work

[03:01] Bioenergy basics and the value chain from forest to grid

[05:24] Forest residues, sawdust, and rejected logs explained

[06:03] The controversy around bioenergy and carbon accounting

[09:21] Species protection, biodiversity, and sustainable forestry practices

[11:14] Perceptions, policy gaps, and the reputation of bioenergy

[12:30] Where critics have valid concerns and the role of monitoring

[14:00] Rural jobs, pellet mills, and environmental justice issues

[15:47] Climate benefits, carbon cycle, and wildfire risk reduction

[19:51] Bioenergy with carbon capture and storage (BECCS)

[20:53] Social and economic impacts for local communities

[23:37] Forest owners, smallholders, and certification challenges

[27:00] The issue of unloved wood and the role of sustainable aviation fuel

[30:15] Opportunities for bioenergy in sustainable forest management

[31:56] Indirect land use change and food security concerns

[34:39] The role of ecological models in decision-making

[35:15] Investor perspective: bioenergy as part of forest investment

[37:56] Constraints facing the bioenergy industry

[40:44] Final advice for new forest investors

[41:40] Where to find Virginia Dale’s research

[42:35] Closing remarks and outro

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