I'm so lucky to have access to interesting people. Life would be so boring if everyone was like me...thankfully that is not the case. 

I sat down with two of my very best friends, who also happen to be my literal next-door neighbors. We met and essentially fell in love during COVID when we moved in next door and the rest is history. 

Bryson is an Airfield Manager in the Military and Jackie is a teacher and pretty much the CEO of the Barnette household. We sat down to talk about navigating marriage when the Military is priority one in the relationship. These two have found a consistent balance within the chaos and are candid about the difficulties they have experienced living within a military marriage. 

Enjoy!

You can see their engagement story in Glamour Magzine here: https://www.glamour.com/story/the-first-night-home-from-the-3

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For me, choosing a business partner was a very important decision. I needed to know that I could trust this person with my personal financial information and trust that they were going to be as committed to building a thriving business as I was. Being friends with the person would be a bonus, but not required. 

However,  I got very lucky in business. My business partner, Emily Hepner, not only is one of my favorite people but the trust and respect I have for her as a business owner continues to grow each year we work together. 

We approached the building of our business very similarly to how we encourage our clients to approach premarital planning. We had a plan, we had hard conversations, and then we put it into a legally binding agreement. 

In this episode, we talk about our relationship dynamics and how it helps us operate our business each day. Our relationship is stronger because of the work we did before we decided to hang our shingle. 

Enjoy!

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Hey Hey Friends, it's me. Just me Chelsea Pagan. 

Today I want to talk about Savings and investment discussions to have with your partner before you say I do. 

This conversation is highlighted in my Marry Me Smart Course and is an important topic to address so you and your parent can build a partnership together that both parties are working towards. 

When financial goals are not aligned, resentment can build. Resentment leads to anger. Anger leads to miscommunication and distance in a relationship. These types of patterns is what kills marriages. 

So talk to your partner about your savings, investment, and retirement goals before you get married so no one is blindsided. Talk to a lawyer about your legal options for ensuring that your agreements are legally binding. 

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Hey Hey Friends.

So I love having experts on to talk all things money, marriage, and relationships, is so much fun. I learn something new every episode and have a blast hanging with people I get to call my friends. 

But there is nothing quite like chatting it up with my Husband about how I apply my advice, strategies and tips for marriage in real life. 

And hey, we have a lot to work on ourselves, but when it comes to money, we are always on the same page because we have a plan and we coordinate and stick to it. 

We share a little about our dynamic when it comes to how we handle finances including the topic of our relationship with money which takes me back to episode 4 of this season.  Make sure to subscribe to this podcast wherever you are listening so you never miss an update. 

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I say this a lot, the two most legally significant things you can do in life are get married and die. So I decided that during a season where Money is the highlight, teaching you how to keep as much of that money with your estate in the event of your Death was an important topic to cover. 

My friend, Janelle Hansen, an Estate Planning Attorney in Northern California, joins me to help highlight some of the benefits of an estate plan. These benefits go beyond what happens in death. She highlights the benefits of an estate plan whether you are a single individual or if you have a spouse or family. 

As a family law attorney, I rely on my experienced colleagues to brainstorm ideas for my clients that ensure they are set up for success both in life, in the event of divorce, and in the event of death. 

You can find Janelle at: https://jhtrustlaw.com/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/janelle-hansen-a0876652/

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I love to talk about Money. It's not taboo, it's sexy. It's empowering. 

Billy Zerillo and I met on Instagram sharing our love for talking about money and how it can be used as a tool to build stronger relationships. 

Billy is a financial advisor whose passion is helping women (especially women who have experienced divorce) answer tough financial questions and gain their purpose back. 

Billy and I talk about why individuals need to acknowledge their relationship with money, including reflecting on where they first learned about the value and importance of money--thinking back to your childhood and what experiences first shaped the way you spend and save now. We also talk about how views on money can change over time, especially as your priorities change in life. 

This is part 1 of our conversation. We finish Part 2 on Billy's Podcast The Money Talk. We shift the conversation to why it is important to share your relationship with money with your significant other and how each person's unique experience with money can impact a marriage. 

Link to Billy's Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@Themoneytalkpod/streams

Where to find Billy: 

https://www.terrawealth.com/billy-zerillo/

Instagram: @themoneytalkadvisor

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We are talking about some heavy stuff today with Family Law Attorney Nicole Ford. 

1 in 4 women and 1 in 9 men experience severe intimate partner physical violence, intimate partner contact sexual violence, and/or intimate partner stalking with impacts such as injury, fearfulness, post-traumatic stress disorder, use of victim services, contraction of sexually transmitted diseases, etc.(Bureau of Justices Statistics). 

I want to make sure everyone knows that the National Domestic Violence Hotline is available 24/7, you can call 800-799-7233 or text Start to 88788 now.

While I have limited the number of Dometic Violence cases I take on professionally due to the significant emotional toll it was taking on me, Nicole Ford tackles these cases every day, advocating for clients who might need a voice to share their stories. With nearly 20 years of experience working in Family Law, Nicole works tirelessly, and often thanklessly in a field that can sometimes take more than it gives. 

We address a small snap shot of the domestic violence issues we encounter in family court, including talking about the difference between Family Law Restraining Orders and Criminal Restraining Orders. 

You can contact Nicole at: [email protected]

You can visit her campaign site at: https://nicolefordforjudge.com/ 

The National Domestic Violence Hotline Contact Information: 800-799-7233

Text Start to 88788

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I love talking about money and ways money can help us have the happiest lives, and it has nothing to do with having a lot of it or more than the next guy.

It has to do with your views on money and what your goals are.

On Today’s episode, I invited my friend Cherie Austin to talk about money freedom and how both individuals and couples can develop their own personalized money strategies to build the life they want.

Cherie has worked in the finance world for nearly 15 years and has a wide range of experience dealing with numerous wealth and financial strategies.

Her coaching business, Where Money Meets Manifesting addresses both the emotional/energetic AND the practical sides of money.  Her clients learn how to make empowered money decisions with unshakeable confidence and ease, and are finally able to arrive at the place Where Money Meets Manifesting.

Her passion for money and helping people find financial freedom is so refreshing and fun.

You can find her on Instagram @wheremoneymeetsmanifesting

Where she includes a link to work with her as well as additional resources.

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I can't tell you how often people ask for discounts or balk at the idea of paying for a consultation with me. 

Not everyone can afford my services, I get it and understand. Sometimes, I might even lose clients because of it, but that is ok. 

On this episode, I wanted to explore the idea that knowing your value, including knowing and standing behind your rate, takes more than just self-awareness. It takes research, and understanding the market, but also an acknowledgment that you might lose a client or two who doesn't think you are worth what you are asking for. 

And I get to do it with long-time friend and successful entrepreneur, Jaime Garland. Hair Stylist, Color, Educator, and badass business owner. Her Salon Bsociety is located in Los Gatos, CA. 

Jamie has created such a high demand for her services, that she is not currently able to take on new clients. She nurtures and respects every dollar and hour her clients spend in her chair. She knows her worth but knows that giving clients what they need versus what she might be able to charge the most for is not only best for the client, but best for her brand. 

We had a blast chatting about business and money. I know you are going to enjoy her vibe and energy as much as I do!

You can find her on instagram @jamiegarlandhair

Got follow her now so you don't miss all the amazing things she has coming up. 

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The relationship you have with yourself and your body can impact so many aspects of your life. From intimate relationships to your friendships and overall physical and mental health. 

Becky Fryer is an amazing photographer who specializes in female boudoir photos in the bay area! I have had the pleasure of having her document many aspects of my life from my engagement photos and wedding to my personal boudoir photos last year. Becky and I chat about how powerful the boudoir experience can be not only because you document this amazing chapter of your life, wherever you are at the moment, but the real-time experience of being behind a camera where the focus is on nothing but you...and you being SEXY!

Becky's recommendation is to approach these photos for yourself. They should be for you first before they become a spicy little gift for your partner. I always have so much fun with Becky and you will too! 

You'll here us drop a bunch of names you might not know including family and friends. You can tell we were having so much fun catching up and reminiscing. 

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Check out her website: https://www.boudoirbybecky.com/

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