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Frank and Stan Chats
By Frank Norris and Stan JohnsonEducation
Frank and Stan Chats episodes
- Frank and Stan Chat No.131: The Eric Craven (The Scouse Poet) Returns and the end of 2022 EditionThe final chat of 2022 sees Eric Craven 'The Scouse Poet' return one the day his new poetry website goes live, www.ericscraven.com. The chat covers the poor condition of some school buildings, the importance of affirmation as a key leadership skill and the right to withdraw labour, as a final resort. Eric reads three of his whimsical poems and Frank reveals the most viewed editions from 2022 and the those that have been watched for the longest period of time. Frank and Stan reflect on key editions that have stuck in their thinking and offer deep gratitude to all guests, viewers and listeners. Have a very Happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year.
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51 min - Frank and Stan Chat No.130: The Sameena Choudry (Equitable Education) EditionWe have tried many times to secure a slot for Sameena Choudry to join our weekly chat but our best efforts failed. She does, however, join us this week and it was well worth the wait. If you want to listen to a colleague committed to equity and social justice, then this chat won't disappoint. It is a timely reminder that not all education settings are the same primarily because they all serve different children and young people in different contexts. Following a discussion about Sameena's extensive work, Stan reflects on the traditions played out in many schools in the lead up to Christmas. He reveals his sensitive side. Sameena then considers the important messages for policy leaders in the latest Education Policy Institute report on the impact of Covid-19 on the most disadvantaged students. Frank then reflects on Ofsted's Annual Report and wonders how recruitment and retention became the big issue when few, if any, school inspection report mentioned the problem. It's a good, open and easy flowing chat. We hope you enjoy it.
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50 min - Frank and Stan Chat No.127: The Lucy Trueman Returns Again EditionWe have enjoyed chatting to Lucy Trueman, the Managing Director of TruemanChange in the past so we asked her to come back and become the guest with the highest number of appearances (3) at the moment. Lucy's expertise in managing significant projects for many public sector organisations including local authorities makes her a fascinating and well informed guest. This episode is all about Leadership with only short coverage of this week's education events. Lucy and Stan begin to unpick the lazy narrative that focuses on what leadership is and offer a much more nuanced and humane insight. It is worth listening/watching and considering whether other school staff should also give the Frank and Stan Chat a go? We all have to lead in our lives, some with greater responsibility than others, but this chat may help with a reconsideration of what is more effective. Enjoy, Stan and Frank really did.
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42 min - Frank and Stan Chat No.126: The Jonny Mitchell and Caroline Foster EditionTwo previous and great guests return to Frank and Stan Chat this week. Jonny Mitchell, Principal at Netherwood Academy and Caroline Foster, Senior Vice Principal at Trinity Academy Grammar join the chat during a week when the government's autumn statement offers a much needed financial boost for schools but only takes funding back to 2010 levels. Stan considers allegations of Ministers bullying again; Jonny reflects on the super human efforts of Kevin Sinfield in raising funds for charity; Caroline draws attention to the John Lewis Christmas advert and how it highlights the needs of children in care. Frank points to the damning statistic that 2/3 of all local authorities inspected by Ofsted for SEND provision were found to be less than good. Room 101 choices are a hoot. Enjoy.
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About Frank and Stan Chats
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Frank Norris and Stan Johnson have been friends since 1995. Both have had successful and lengthy careers in education. Frank was a very senior HMI with Ofsted for 11 years and was the CEO of the Coop…
Academies Trust for 6 years. Stan was seconded to Ofsted for a year and then returned to headship before working as a senior adviser with Lancashire LA. He has latterly led a successful education consultancy in the North West. Prior to Covid-19, the two gents would meet in Manchester for a pint or two but the pandemic put an end to that. On 1 May 2020, they recorded their first video chat as a way of recording their emotions and reactions to the pandemic. After putting the video on Youtube as a safe place to store it they realised that some followers began to appear. Now, with nearly 180 episodes and having chatted to Professors, CEOs, journalists, teachers, former HMI, education thinkers and Frank's Key Stage 1 leading daughter they have a loyal following and a rapidly increasing number of viewers. The reach of the Frank and Stan Chat stretches from Bogota to Ottawa to Greece and their first Live Edition was recorded in front of nearly 200 Headteachers in York. The Chats are not undertaken to attract followers or for financial reward (nothing is received and nothing will be received). It is a way of airing views on education matters between two professional friends with a focus on leadership. We are honoured to be invited to host the weekly chats on the Leader-connect website www.leader-connect.co.uk. The chats helped the gents get through the pandemic and they are delighted that they have been enjoyed by others and appear to have helped in developing leadership thought and actions. If you fancy being a guest then just reach out. We never post a video unless the guest is comfortable with it. So, it is a relatively risk-free environment. Thank you. Frank and Stan. PS. We were honoured to be identified as one of the Top 50 education and leadership podcasts in THE WORLD!!! We can't believe it, but it appears to be true.
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