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Here's 30 minutes of the brilliant Frank Cogliano, Professor of American History at the University of Edinburgh, who offers his thoughts on American self-confidence and its flip side, American insecurity, in the early republic. We also covered British attitudes to the not-yet-special relationship, Frank's views on a certain N. Bonaparte and, of course, Alexander Hamilton's musical rehabilitation and Frank's enduring patience as everybody quotes its lyrics at him. Thanks to Frank for discussing the Founding Fathers' notion of a nation! This interview was recorded in the summer of 2022.

PS - sorry for the audio quality which is occasionally patchy.