We just thought we would try a shorter form this week and see how it goes; feedback appreciated. But somehow we still managed to gas in the intro for nearly 20 minutes... But then how would we ever find out about Jon's history of selling handbags at a poetry festival??? This week Fintan is back a little bit too, but the star is Frank Op De Woerd of CasinoNieuws.nl, he talks about his industry influencing but mostly it's about changes in Curacao, and the recent changes in Netherlands. He's great, but we do also discuss his wallpaper which we couldn't show you on the podcast. Because it's audio. But it was *very* nice. So, shorter episode. Let us know your thoughts.