Bob Wright is a journalist, author, and podcast host. His latest book is The God Test.In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Bob Wright discuss why artificial intelligence may be more transformational than any previous technology, how AI systems can develop unintended goals that escape the control of their creators, and whether we should take the “doomer” case for catastrophic AI risk seriously.In an event exclusively for readers of American Purpose and Persuasion, Yascha Mounk will be interviewing Francis Fukuyama about his life and thought at 5pm on Sunday, September 6 at The Abbey Centre, London. Find out more and get tickets <a target="_blank" href="https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/an-evening-with-francis-fukuyama-tickets-1988168963891">here</a>. Paying subscribers of Persuasion and American Purpose can access a code for a free ticket <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/p/events-code">here</a>.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam">Frankly Fukuyama</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

Bob Wright is a journalist, author, and podcast host. His latest book is The God Test. In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Bob Wright discuss why artificial intelligence may be more transformational than any previous technology, how AI systems can develop unintended goals that escape the control of their creators, and whether we should take the “doomer” case for catastrophic AI risk seriously. In an event exclusively for readers of American Purpose and Persuasion, Yascha Mounk will be interviewing Francis Fukuyama about his life and thought at 5pm on Sunday, September 6 at The Abbey Centre, London. Find out more and get tickets here. Paying subscribers of Persuasion and American Purpose can access a code for a free ticket here. Podcast production by Ringo Harrison. Connect with us! X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Bob Wright is a journalist, author, and podcast host. His latest book is The God Test.In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Bob Wright discuss why artificial intelligence may be more transformational than any previous technology, how AI systems can develop unintended goals that escape the control of their creators, and whether we should take the “doomer” case for catastrophic AI risk seriously.In an event exclusively for readers of American Purpose and Persuasion, Yascha Mounk will be interviewing Francis Fukuyama about his life and thought at 5pm on Sunday, September 6 at The Abbey Centre, London. Find out more and get tickets <a href="https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/an-evening-with-francis-fukuyama-tickets-1988168963891" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>. Paying subscribers of Persuasion and American Purpose can access a code for a free ticket <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/p/events-code" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: <a href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion" rel="noopener noreferrer">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frankly Fukuyama</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w" rel="noopener noreferrer">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_2" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

Bob Wright on the Future of Artificial Intelligence

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_7">www.persuasion.community</a> We’re trying something new! Frank featured on today’s episode of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/podcast">The Good Fight,</a> so we’re sharing it with subscribers to the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/s/frankly-fukuyama">Frankly Fukuyama</a> podcast! If you’d like to sign up to The Good Fight or Frankly Fukuyama, please click <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/account">here</a> and toggle the correct buttons! We hope you enjoy the conversation.Francis Fukuyama is the Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at Stanford University. His latest book is <a target="_blank" href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374606718/liberalismanditsdiscontents">Liberalism and Its Discontents</a>. He is also the author of the “<a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/s/francis-fukuyama">Frankly Fukuyama</a>” column, carried forward from American Purpose, at Persuasion.In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Francis Fukuyama discuss whether the unprecedented strikes on Iran will lead to the downfall of the mullahs, whether America can avoid getting drawn into a Middle Eastern quagmire, and whether the midterms will turn Donald Trump into a lame duck.If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following <a target="_blank" href="https://yaschamounk.substack.com/subscribe?next=https%3A%2F%2Fyaschamounk.substack.com%2Faccount%2Fadd-podcast%3Futm_source%3Dall-podcasts&skipPodcastSetupPage=true">this link on your phone</a>.Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.communityPodcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!<a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3nhfO2XVPsv2wZafZ5n7Hk">Spotify</a> | <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-good-fight/id1198765424">Apple</a> | <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL3RoZV9nb29kX2ZpZ2h0LmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz">Google</a>X: <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">@Yascha_Mounk</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TheUtopianMagazine">Yascha Mounk</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/persuasion-community/">Persuasion Community</a>

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.persuasion.community We’re trying something new! Frank featured on today’s episode of The Good Fight, so we’re sharing it with subscribers to the Frankly Fukuyama podcast! If you’d like to sign up to The Good Fight or Frankly Fukuyama, please click here and toggle the correct buttons! We hope you enjoy the conversation. Francis Fukuyama is the Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at Stanford University. His latest book is Liberalism and Its Discontents. He is also the author of the “Frankly Fukuyama” column, carried forward from American Purpose, at Persuasion. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Francis Fukuyama discuss whether the unprecedented strikes on Iran will lead to the downfall of the mullahs, whether America can avoid getting drawn into a Middle Eastern quagmire, and whether the midterms will turn Donald Trump into a lame duck. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.community Podcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google X: @Yascha_Mounk & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Yascha Mounk, Persuasion LinkedIn: Persuasion Community

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_7" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.persuasion.community</a> We’re trying something new! Frank featured on today’s episode of <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Good Fight,</a> so we’re sharing it with subscribers to the <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/s/frankly-fukuyama" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frankly Fukuyama</a> podcast! If you’d like to sign up to The Good Fight or Frankly Fukuyama, please click <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/account" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a> and toggle the correct buttons! We hope you enjoy the conversation.Francis Fukuyama is the Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at Stanford University. His latest book is <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374606718/liberalismanditsdiscontents" rel="noopener noreferrer">Liberalism and Its Discontents</a>. He is also the author of the “<a href="https://www.persuasion.community/s/francis-fukuyama" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frankly Fukuyama</a>” column, carried forward from American Purpose, at Persuasion.In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Francis Fukuyama discuss whether the unprecedented strikes on Iran will lead to the downfall of the mullahs, whether America can avoid getting drawn into a Middle Eastern quagmire, and whether the midterms will turn Donald Trump into a lame duck.If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following <a href="https://yaschamounk.substack.com/subscribe?next=https%3A%2F%2Fyaschamounk.substack.com%2Faccount%2Fadd-podcast%3Futm_source%3Dall-podcasts&amp;skipPodcastSetupPage=true" rel="noopener noreferrer">this link on your phone</a>.Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.communityPodcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3nhfO2XVPsv2wZafZ5n7Hk" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-good-fight/id1198765424" rel="noopener noreferrer">Apple</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL3RoZV9nb29kX2ZpZ2h0LmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz" rel="noopener noreferrer">Google</a>X: <a href="https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" rel="noopener noreferrer">@Yascha_Mounk</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion" rel="noopener noreferrer">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TheUtopianMagazine" rel="noopener noreferrer">Yascha Mounk</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w" rel="noopener noreferrer">Persuasion</a>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/persuasion-community/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Persuasion Community</a>

Francis Fukuyama on Trump’s War With Iran

Alex Stamos was formerly head of security at Facebook/Meta and is a leading expert on computer security. He discusses the threats to computer security posed by the most recent advances in AI, and explains why those are much more dangerous and urgent than the “existential” threats feared by many.All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/t/frankly-fukuyama-podcast">here</a>.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam">Frankly Fukuyama</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

Alex Stamos was formerly head of security at Facebook/Meta and is a leading expert on computer security. He discusses the threats to computer security posed by the most recent advances in AI, and explains why those are much more dangerous and urgent than the “existential” threats feared by many. All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available here. Podcast production by Ringo Harrison. Connect with us! X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Alex Stamos was formerly head of security at Facebook/Meta and is a leading expert on computer security. He discusses the threats to computer security posed by the most recent advances in AI, and explains why those are much more dangerous and urgent than the “existential” threats feared by many.All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/t/frankly-fukuyama-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: <a href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion" rel="noopener noreferrer">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frankly Fukuyama</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w" rel="noopener noreferrer">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_2" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

Alex Stamos on the Real Threat Posed By AI

In this episode of Frankly Fukuyama, Francis Fukuyama explores AI’s existential threat to humanity. The original blog post which inspired this episode is <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/p/delegation-and-destruction">here</a>.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam">Frankly Fukuyama</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

In this episode of Frankly Fukuyama, Francis Fukuyama explores AI’s existential threat to humanity. The original blog post which inspired this episode is here. Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

In this episode of Frankly Fukuyama, Francis Fukuyama explores AI’s existential threat to humanity. The original blog post which inspired this episode is <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/p/delegation-and-destruction" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion" rel="noopener noreferrer">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frankly Fukuyama</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w" rel="noopener noreferrer">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_2" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

Francis Fukuyama on Agentic AI and the Problem of Delegation

Michael McFaul is the Director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford, and author of the forthcoming book <a target="_blank" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com/dp/0358677874/__;!!G92We9drHetJ8EofZw!dXBFD90jy5_GMfxcv_DhL7ydkKkDBnaDIufb74hg5dcoMp8FJzdckuJlOOXrnD8t90HHmbNzaaJBPKAFVPF1y7xJ6vr56NRMrggDxJ0$">Autocrats vs. Democrats: China, Russia, America, and the New Global Disorder</a>.In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Michael McFaul discuss discuss Russia, whether there is a new Cold War between the United States and China, and why teaching should empower students to be actual policy implementers rather than simply technocrats.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam">Frankly Fukuyama</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

Michael McFaul is the Director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford, and author of the forthcoming book Autocrats vs. Democrats: China, Russia, America, and the New Global Disorder. In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Michael McFaul discuss discuss Russia, whether there is a new Cold War between the United States and China, and why teaching should empower students to be actual policy implementers rather than simply technocrats. Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Michael McFaul is the Director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford, and author of the forthcoming book <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com/dp/0358677874/__;!!G92We9drHetJ8EofZw!dXBFD90jy5_GMfxcv_DhL7ydkKkDBnaDIufb74hg5dcoMp8FJzdckuJlOOXrnD8t90HHmbNzaaJBPKAFVPF1y7xJ6vr56NRMrggDxJ0$" rel="noopener noreferrer">Autocrats vs. Democrats: China, Russia, America, and the New Global Disorder</a>.In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Michael McFaul discuss discuss Russia, whether there is a new Cold War between the United States and China, and why teaching should empower students to be actual policy implementers rather than simply technocrats.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion" rel="noopener noreferrer">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frankly Fukuyama</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w" rel="noopener noreferrer">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_2" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

Michael McFaul on The Emerging Geopolitical Order

In the latest conversation on the Frankly Fukuyama podcast, Francis Fukuyama is joined by Parag Khanna.Parag Khanna is a political scientist and author of a number of books, including <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Move-Forces-Uprooting-Parag-Khanna/dp/1982168978">Move! The Forces Uprooting Us</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Run-World-Rennaissance-Renaissance/dp/1400068274">How to Run the World</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Technocracy-America-Info-State-Parag-Khanna/dp/0998232513">Technocracy in America</a>. He is the CEO of AlphaGeo, a geospatial predictive location analytics platform, and the creator of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.paragkhanna.com/the-periodic-table-of-states-2/">The Periodic Table of States</a>.You can watch the full episode below, and can find all episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast <a target="_blank" href="https://www.persuasion.community/t/frankly-fukuyama-podcast">here</a>.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam">Frankly Fukuyama</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

In the latest conversation on the Frankly Fukuyama podcast, Francis Fukuyama is joined by Parag Khanna. Parag Khanna is a political scientist and author of a number of books, including Move! The Forces Uprooting Us, How to Run the World, and Technocracy in America. He is the CEO of AlphaGeo, a geospatial predictive location analytics platform, and the creator of The Periodic Table of States. You can watch the full episode below, and can find all episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast here. Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

In the latest conversation on the Frankly Fukuyama podcast, Francis Fukuyama is joined by Parag Khanna.Parag Khanna is a political scientist and author of a number of books, including <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Move-Forces-Uprooting-Parag-Khanna/dp/1982168978" rel="noopener noreferrer">Move! The Forces Uprooting Us</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Run-World-Rennaissance-Renaissance/dp/1400068274" rel="noopener noreferrer">How to Run the World</a>, and <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Technocracy-America-Info-State-Parag-Khanna/dp/0998232513" rel="noopener noreferrer">Technocracy in America</a>. He is the CEO of AlphaGeo, a geospatial predictive location analytics platform, and the creator of <a href="https://www.paragkhanna.com/the-periodic-table-of-states-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Periodic Table of States</a>.You can watch the full episode below, and can find all episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/t/frankly-fukuyama-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion" rel="noopener noreferrer">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frankly Fukuyama</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w" rel="noopener noreferrer">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_2" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

Parag Khanna on How To Measure State Capacity

Batu Kutelia was a former ambassador of the Republic of Georgia to the Untied States, and a senior official in the Georgian Defense Ministry. In this interview, he talks about the strategic importance of Georgia and the so-called "Middle Corridor", and how the country is under severe pressure from Russia to re-enter the Russian strategic orbitPodcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam">Frankly Fukuyama</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

Batu Kutelia was a former ambassador of the Republic of Georgia to the Untied States, and a senior official in the Georgian Defense Ministry. In this interview, he talks about the strategic importance of Georgia and the so-called "Middle Corridor", and how the country is under severe pressure from Russia to re-enter the Russian strategic orbit Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Batu Kutelia was a former ambassador of the Republic of Georgia to the Untied States, and a senior official in the Georgian Defense Ministry. In this interview, he talks about the strategic importance of Georgia and the so-called "Middle Corridor", and how the country is under severe pressure from Russia to re-enter the Russian strategic orbitPodcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion" rel="noopener noreferrer">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frankly Fukuyama</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w" rel="noopener noreferrer">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_2" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

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I’d like to introduce you to a new podcast series that will accompany my Frankly Fukuyama blog on American Purpose at Persuasion. Rose Gottemoeller is the former Deputy Secretary General of NATO, has held a series of top State Department posts including Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security, and was chief negotiator of the New START Treaty.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam">Frankly Fukuyama</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

I’d like to introduce you to a new podcast series that will accompany my Frankly Fukuyama blog on American Purpose at Persuasion. Rose Gottemoeller is the former Deputy Secretary General of NATO, has held a series of top State Department posts including Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security, and was chief negotiator of the New START Treaty. Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

I’d like to introduce you to a new podcast series that will accompany my Frankly Fukuyama blog on American Purpose at Persuasion. Rose Gottemoeller is the former Deputy Secretary General of NATO, has held a series of top State Department posts including Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security, and was chief negotiator of the New START Treaty.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: <a href="https://x.com/FukuyamaFrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer">@FukuyamaFrancis</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion" rel="noopener noreferrer">@JoinPersuasion</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ffukuyam" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frankly Fukuyama</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyw69DKDfr9Vj1PkRmnI7w" rel="noopener noreferrer">Persuasion</a> This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_2" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.persuasion.community/subscribe</a>

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Join Francis Fukuyama for conversations with leading policymakers and thinkers as he explores how to revitalize liberal democracy in the United States, while addressing the authoritarian challenges to liberal democracy abroad. A project of American Purpose at Persuasion. www.persuasion.community

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