Dan Seaborn of Winning at Home (winningathome.com) joins Perry and Shawna with a conversation of how Jesus sets us free from the fear that wants to cripple us during this pandemic.  We talk about the massive promise of comfort and shelter we find in Psalm 91.  We also talk about what Psalm 91 does not mean.  It doesn’t mean that we are promised a problem free life.  Or that we won’t get Covid 19.  It does mean that our eternal future is secure because of the cross.  Then Perry admits that he doesn’t feel fully qualified to lead in these troubling times and Dan shares with him the non-negotiable practice that will help him and us rise to the challenge.  Time with God.  And finally Dan gives some real life ideas on how we can help our kids and ourselves survive this no-end-in-sight sheltering at home!