In this powerful kickoff to the July “Freedom” series, April Bordeau welcomes back therapist Jared Jones to discuss a foundational question: Are we truly free—or just managing our behavior?

They dive deep into the contrast between behavior modification and authentic freedom, exploring why simply managing outward actions often fails to produce lasting change. Instead, they advocate for a process that heals the root causes behind behaviors.

Whether you're wrestling with unhealthy patterns, helping someone walk through recovery, or striving to live more fully, this conversation offers both hope and practical steps toward sustainable transformation.

🧠 What You'll Learn in This Episode

• The difference between behavior modification and true internal freedom
• Why “clip charts” and reward systems only go so far
• How early wounds, trauma, and unmet needs influence adult behavior
• Why behavior change often fails without healing the deeper beliefs underneath
• The five practical steps toward living in freedom (not just managing symptoms)
• Why inviting God into the healing process is essential to transformation
• Common signs you’re living in true freedom—and when you’re not
• Tools for helping others in recovery without overstepping boundaries

🛠️ Practical Takeaways: 5 Steps to Walking in True Freedom

1. Identify what’s driving the behavior – go deeper than the surface.
2. Name the false belief behind the struggle – uncover the lies we’ve adopted.
3. Invite God into the healing process – don’t do the journey alone.
4. Practice habits aligned with healing – start living as a whole person.
5. Build a strong support system – include truth-tellers who walk with you in grace.

📚 Resources Mentioned

• The Anatomy of the Soul by Dr. Curt Thompson
• Altogether You by Jenna Riemersma (IFS-informed, faith-based resource)
• Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy model — Intro to IFS (add link in actual show notes)

💬 Memorable Quote

“Are you modifying your behavior to look free—or are you actually healing and living free?”

💡 Need Help?

Care to Change is here when you’re ready. We offer practical solutions for positive change—because freedom is possible, and you don’t have to walk alone.

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