After a break, Henrike von Platen and Dr. Margret Vilborg Bjarnadóttir are back - drinking their coffee and chatting about how to reach fair pay fast. Having discussed pay gaps and their underlying causes, the two will move further and tackle the big questions of work after the COVID-19 pandemic. From compensation strategies for remote work, measuring the value of work, developments in working time, to how companies can attract people back - Henrike and Margret absolutely agree - pay equity is an integral part of all these developments ahead. 

In episode 23, Margret explains the reasoning behind analyzing the value of work and presents a new tool developed by PayAnalytics that enables the assessment of the worth of jobs and the comparison of groups performing different jobs with similar value, thereby facilitating the identification of any job undervaluation.

Henrike is joined by a very special guest in a very special place: Vidir Ragnarsson from PayAnalytics - who is visiting Berlin. They discuss the very promising situation in Iceland. Pay gaps are going down and companies are increasingly willing to share their gaps. Vidir Ragnarsson's advice: Start with the data and measuring and go on from there. 

Margret is joined by has two guests: Rashmi Dixit and Kate Dixon, the partners and co-founders of Rakarising. Together they are on a mission to not only bring attention to oppressive pay practices, but to eradicate them. You can follow their work on rakarising.com.

Margret and Henrike are joined by Raafi-Karim Alidina, Consultant, Data & Product Lead at Included.

Margret and Henrike discuss this year's World at Work conference. One of the big topics at the conference is that many companies have great difficulties in finding new employees at all levels of qualification. In the U.S. in particular, companies are therefore looking at how to optimize reward packages and attract skilled workers. Because unlike in most European countries, US-American employees don't automatically get the benefit of health care or paid parental leave. But how could this reality be changed for the better?

Margret and Henrike discuss what the real state of equality is for French women. What laws are in place? How is pay equity measured? Is everything as progressive as it looks from the outside? Or do some things seem better than they really are?  

Margret is the host of this episode and is joined by Katinka Brose from the Fair Pay Innovation Lab. They discuss a fair pay lawsuit filed by a German media maker who went to court against her employer in 2017. But what impact will this case have on jurisprudence in Germany, where fair pay lawsuits can be counted on two hands so far? To what extent is the type of contract decisive here, and how can gender discrimination in pay be determined?

From increased employee satisfaction (and, in turn, motivation) to a dip in turnover and more control over compensation decisions, the benefits of paying fairly and transparently build upon one another. In this coffee talk, Henrike and Margret have a lightning round to answer your burning questions about the measurable positive outcomes of pay equity.

Margret and Henrike are joined by the Diversity & Inclusion expert, Stephen Frost, who is not only an old college friend of Margret’s, he was the first officer of inclusion at the London Olympics, founded the impact-led consultancy “Included” in 2012. Over coffee with Margrét and Henrike Stephen describes his remarkable journey: from a lobbyist for Diversity & Inclusion, wondering right from the beginning: Why wouldn't we want equal pay?.