Billified: The Bill Moran Podcast

From Glaciers to Forgiveness - Snowmobiles, Stevie Nicks & the Search for True Intimacy


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In this wide-ranging and thought-provoking episode of Billified, Bill welcomes Dan back to the studio for a conversation that veers from casual to deeply reflective—and everything in between.

Bill kicks things off by admitting he completely shut down for a day, opting for sleep, snacks, and couch time. Dan says that’s not just okay—it’s healthy. From there, the conversation heads to Iceland, where Bill’s sister just rolled a snowmobile—with her 13-year-old daughter on the back—on a glacier. She’s bruised but unbroken, and the trip sparks a debate: extreme adventures vs. Disney, which offers more value?

The topic of relationships surfaces as the guys dive into the Billy Joel docuseries on HBO Max. Billy’s on marriage number four, and it prompts Bill and Dan to explore whether true companionship is worth another shot after failed relationships. Bill opens up about his views on intimacy—how it’s not just sex, but soul-deep connection.

As legendary Buffalo Bills coach Marv Levy celebrates his 100th birthday, the discussion shifts to health span vs. lifespan. Dan shares insights into supplements and staying well longer, not just living longer. That philosophical vibe continues as they explore the concept of forgiveness, religion, and whether we ever truly forgive—or just move on because nothing is that important in the grand scheme.
Later, Bill shines a spotlight on Stevie Nicks—her music, her love life, and why society judges women differently when it comes to relationships. You’ll hear the story behind her collaboration with Tom Petty and how some iconic rock songs got their names.

From rock stars to real-life safety, Bill questions whether modern-day “security theater” at public events actually makes us safer—or just feel safer. And as local summer festivals heat up, they ask: do you avoid events out of fear?

Wrapping up, Dan worries about the Buffalo Bills’ long list of soft-tissue injuries before the preseason has even started.

This episode has humor, depth, and more than a few unexpected turns. We’d love to hear your thoughts—jump in and join the conversation!


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