In this episode, Mike and Julian sit down with Jackie Brearley, a trailblazer in the veterinary field as one of Cambridge's first female veterinary students. Jackie shares her inspiring journey, from overcoming a nervous breakdown to finding solace in marathon running—starting at the age of 60.

We explore her latest passion: wild fermentation. Jackie explains the fascinating role of local microorganisms in the process and candidly discusses the challenges of launching a safe and sustainable fermentation business, Wildly Preserved.

Throughout the episode, we touch on a range of topics, including the importance of patient comfort in veterinary care, the role of processed foods in modern diets, and sustainable living practices.