Before becoming a national leader in efforts to improve conditions for prisoners as well as people who’ve been recently released, Dorsey Nunn spent a decade behind bars. That experience spurred his fifty powerful years of political and legal battles for freedom and human rights, including as the founder of All of Us or None and the longtime Executive Director of Legal Services for Prisoners With Children. Nunn recently published his memoir, called What Kind of Bird Can’t Fly: A Memoir of Resilience and Resurrection, and he joins us to discuss it.

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