In this episode of Cold Red, Ray  and Fitz interview Kris Illingsworth, a retired police officer from New South Wales, Australia. She shares her background and journey into law enforcement, including her time at the police academy and her experience as a patrol officer. She also discusses her involvement in a serial murder investigation and her interest in behavioral analysis and profiling. The conversation highlights the challenges and complexities of working in law enforcement and the importance of understanding the motivations and characteristics of offenders. In this conversation, Kris Illingsworth, a retired detective and criminal profiler from Australia. She discusses her involvement in solving a series of backpacker murders and a rape case in Wee Waa. Kris also talks about her training at the FBI Academy and her work as a consultant. The conversation concludes with Kris recounting her harrowing experience during a bushfire near Sydney.