In this episode, Jenny Beth Martin interviews Jan Jekielek, Senior Editor at The Epoch Times and host of American Thought Leaders. Jan shares his extraordinary journey—from his parents’ escape from communist Poland to his own unexpected path from evolutionary biologist to investigative journalist exposing the realities of the Chinese Communist Party.

Jan explains how he first discovered the CCP’s persecution of Falun Gong and how this led him to uncover extensive evidence of forced organ harvesting in China, the subject of his forthcoming book Kill to Order. He details how the CCP built a state-run organ extraction industry, why Western governments failed to confront it, and how new legislation in the United States may finally begin to address the crisis.

Jenny Beth and Jan also discuss the CCP’s propaganda system, media control, and how censorship and narrative manipulation have seeped into Western institutions. They explore the dangers of dehumanization, the assault on free speech, and why preserving America’s First Amendment protections is essential to resisting totalitarian influence.

Topics discussed include:
• The persecution of Falun Gong and the rise of China’s organ harvesting industry
• How communist systems rely on propaganda, coercion, and dehumanization
• The CCP’s influence on Western media and political narratives
• Lessons Americans must learn to protect liberty, human rights, and free speech
• Current U.S. legislation targeting forced organ harvesting
• How Jan’s investigative reporting and personal history shaped his mission

For more from Jan, visit American Thought Leaders on The Epoch Times and pre-order his book at KillToOrder.com. 

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