Guest: Frank Gaffney is president of the Institute for the American Future and host of Securing America on Real America’s Voice. He founded and led the Center for Security Policy for 37 years, served on the Senate Armed Services Committee under President Reagan, and was Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense.

Key topics covered:

- The March 3 Texas primary proposition: “Texas should prohibit Sharia law” and the 1.9 million votes behind it

- The 400-acre Texas development once branded Epic City, now rebranded “the Meadow,” and AG Ken Paxton’s injunctions

- Florida and Texas designations of the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR, and the court ruling on the CAIR designation

- Senator Ted Cruz on the constitutional line between practicing your faith and compelling others to submit

- The “conduct, not belief” legal strategy and the sedition argument

- The Sharia Free Pledge campaign and the oath of office

Timestamps (podcast cut):

0:14 — Cold open: the campaign to ban Sharia law

1:09 — Frank Gaffney’s national-security background and the Institute for the American Future

3:11 — usfuture.org, bansharia.com, and the Victory Coalition

3:33 — Gaffney’s case for treating Sharia as political doctrine rather than protected religion

17:35 — “It’s illegal in this country”: where U.S. law already applies

18:29 — Gaffney’s framing of “civilization jihad,” electoral influence, and demographics

20:36 — “Not all Muslims”: Jenny Beth draws the line on individual religious liberty

25:55 — Bringing the question home: how Gaffney says it surfaces in America

27:19 — The Britain comparison and the grooming-gang policing-failure debate

33:12 — Epic City in Texas: 400 acres and the rebrand to “the Meadow”

35:32 — Ken Paxton’s injunctions and the unsettled legal status

42:22 — Constitutional rights and the limits on compelling others

43:54 — Senator Ted Cruz on religious liberty vs. compelled submission

45:15 — March 3: 1.9 million Texans vote on the proposition

50:22 — The “Marxist-Islamic alliance” framing (credited on-air to Mark Levin)

52:40 — Proposition 10 results and the “red-green-blue” coalition argument

55:27 — What keeps Gaffney going: Reagan and the “watchman on the wall”

57:16 — Florida, DeSantis, and the Muslim Brotherhood / CAIR designations

58:22 — The CAIR court ruling and going after conduct, not belief

59:55 — The Sharia Free Pledge and the oath of office

1:02:17 — Greg Abbott’s designations and Texas real-property restrictions

1:03:21 — Why Gaffney calls this a national voting issue

1:05:01 — Where to learn more; close

Links: bansharia.com, usfuture.org, jennybethshow.com, teapartypatriots.org

Cleta Mitchell is the founder of the Election Integrity Network and one of the nation's most prominent election law attorneys. A former state legislator, she has helped lead the coalition behind the SAVE America Act and works to ensure that only eligible American citizens vote in American elections.

Key topics covered:

Episode breakdown:

00:14 — Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show

00:40 — Why the SAVE America Act is stalled in the Senate

01:06 — “The Senate is like concrete”: the 60-vote problem

02:06 — The new plan: break the bill into pieces and attach it to House bills

03:01 — The President's pledge and why the House is the only hope

04:25 — The unelected parliamentarian with more power than anyone in Washington

04:46 — Reconciliation blocked: the parliamentarian objects to ICE and Border Patrol funding

05:49 — The Byrd Rule explained

08:42 — A “snowball chance” under the Byrd Rule, and attaching the bill to FISA or housing

10:33 — Combining photo voter ID and citizenship confirmation; Speaker Johnson is committed

13:13 — Call your congressman: 202-224-3121

14:14 — Credit to Speaker Johnson, Chip Roy, and Senator Mike Lee

15:20 — The paid influencer operation aimed at Senator Mike Lee

16:18 — Why you cannot remove the Senate Majority Leader right now

17:40 — Removing a Senate leader is not like removing a House Speaker

18:39 — Pressuring the senators who voted no: Murkowski and Collins

20:10 — “Legislating has become an atrophied muscle in the Senate”

21:29 — The filibuster question

22:39 — Why the talking filibuster no longer works

23:41 — A 1986 ruling and a constitutional crisis in the Senate

24:20 — Speaker Johnson's thin majority vs. the Senate's gridlock

26:21 — The call to action and where to take it

27:30 — How to follow Cleta Mitchell and the Election Integrity Network

28:22 — Closing thoughts

Links and resources:

teapartypatriots.org

jennybethshow.com

passthesaveamericaact.com

Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121

Election Integrity Network: electionintegritynetwork.org

SAVE America Act Coalition: saveamericaactcoalition.com

Guests:

Conn Carroll is commentary editor at the Washington Examiner, where he tracks Washington every single day.

Jim Pfaff is president of the Conservative Caucus, which tracks constitutional liberty and electoral integrity (the group also operates under the name Americans for Constitutional Liberty).

Curtis Houck is managing editor of NewsBusters at the Media Research Center, where he analyzes media bias every day.

Key topics covered:

•  The Supreme Court's emergency order locking Alabama's congressional map for November

•  The end of race-based redistricting and the future of the 2026 House map

•  The California GOP surge: Steve Hilton statewide and Spencer Pratt in the Los Angeles mayor's race

•  The case for defunding UNRWA

•  Why California Democrats can't take the heat — the Xavier Becerra interview

•  The housing crisis, Rhode Island's failed plan, and the permitting problem

•  Lee Zeldin's EPA and the recycling revolution

•  The SAVE America Act, reconciliation, DHS funding, and the parliamentarian fight

•  Whether the Founders would be disappointed in America today

Timestamps:

00:17 — Cold Open: Alabama Map Locked & California Primary Results

02:48 — Conn Carroll on the California & Iowa Primaries

04:56 — Why the U.S. Should Defund UNRWA

06:53 — California Democrats Can't Take the Heat (Becerra & the NYT)

11:50 — The Housing Crisis & Rhode Island's $50M Failure

16:46 — Lee Zeldin's EPA & the Recycling Revolution

18:41 — Why Cars Got So Expensive

20:18 — Would the Founders Be Disappointed? & the 17th Amendment

24:40 — Jim Pfaff on the Alabama Supreme Court Ruling

33:47 — Steve Hilton & Spencer Pratt Make Their Case

38:54 — Call to Action: Pass the SAVE America Act

40:23 — Reconciliation 2.0, FISA & the Parliamentarian Fight

45:44 — Would the Founders Be Disappointed? (Pfaff)

50:03 — Curtis Houck on the Spencer Pratt Surge

55:33 — What Pratt Understands About Today's Media

58:53 — Breaking Through the Media Noise

1:02:03 — Closing: The Essence of American Grit

Links: teapartypatriots.org | jennybethshow.com | passthesaveamericaact.com | Capitol switchboard 202-224-3121

Stacy Washington is the host of Stacy on the Right, airing 9:00 PM ET Monday through Friday on Patriot News Channel 125 on SiriusXM.

Nick Searcy is an actor, producer, director, and author. His documentary Border States of America and his upcoming Paramount film The Rescue were both shot in Georgia.

Robert McNeily is with Tea Party Patriots Action and joined the panel as co-host.

Key topics:

- Spencer Pratt's viral, AI-driven campaign for Los Angeles mayor

- President Trump's late endorsements in six California races on primary day

- Karen Bass's CNN interview and her record on the Palisades fire

- Burned ballot drop boxes in Los Angeles County and California's missing voter ID

- The SAVE America Act, proof of citizenship, and the stalled Senate fight

- Graham Platner's scandal-plagued Maine Senate campaign

Timestamps:

00:17 — Cold open: Tina Peters released, burned ballots, a stalled SAVE America Act

01:53 — Meet the panel: Stacy Washington and Nick Searcy

02:33 — California primary day and the GOP's comeback

03:32 — Why Nick Searcy left California

06:33 — Spencer Pratt's "look around" and Fresh Prince ads

08:22 — AI ads: Pratt as Batman, Bass as the Joker

11:25 — A nonpartisan strategy and the fight to rebuild

12:51 — The Spencer Pratt playbook and the property-tax trap

20:42 — Ballot drop boxes torched in Los Angeles County

25:22 — Karen Bass's CNN interview

28:06 — Private property rights and Bass's record

29:13 — Spencer Pratt vs. Batman

35:25 — Back from Maine: the SAVE America Act

36:38 — The fight inside the GOP and Senate leadership

40:04 — Nick Searcy's voter ID test

41:48 — How to move the bill: call 202-224-3121

42:57 — Graham Platner and the Maine Senate race

48:38 — Both coasts and the drift toward Marxism

53:42 — Guest sign-offs

55:48 — Closing: the SAVE America Act and a Maine sunrise

Links:

- Pass the SAVE America Act: passthesaveamericaact.com

- Capitol switchboard: 202-224-3121

- teapartypatriots.org

- jennybethshow.com

Sharon Bemis is the president of the Election Integrity Network, a nationwide nonprofit building a permanent infrastructure of citizen volunteers to protect elections. A former election official from the state of Maine, she brings firsthand administrative experience to the fight for honest elections.

Sara Vieira is the coalitions director of the Election Integrity Network and chair of the New England Coalition. A Rhode Island native active in the election integrity movement since 2020, she organizes grassroots leaders across five New England states.

Key topics covered:

Timestamps:

00:18 — Why the SAVE America Act is stalled in the Senate

01:27 — What the Election Integrity Network is

02:25 — Inside the New England Coalition

05:55 — The EIN Model Laws Handbook explained

10:36 — The 10 principles of the Citizens Election Bill of Rights

16:13 — Restoring election day and election-night results

18:40 — Ranked choice voting and the Maine problem

23:35 — Cleaning voter rolls and the residency problem

29:19 — Voting technology and hand-marked paper ballots

34:11 — Why pre- and post-election audits matter

38:27 — Protecting the military vote from overseas loopholes

42:37 — Billionaire election schemes and Zuckbucks

49:53 — The SAVE America Act and the Senate fight

55:30 — Where to get involved

Links: electionintegritynetwork.org, modelelectionlaws.org, jennybethshow.com, teapartypatriots.org. Call Capitol Hill: 202-224-3121.

James Lindsay is a mathematician, author, and host of the New Discourses podcast. He is one of America’s leading critics of Marxism, critical theory, and identity politics, and is currently producing a long-running series reading directly from Nazi primary sources to bust historical revisionism circulating online.

Jenny Beth Martin is co-founder of the Tea Party movement and Chairman of Tea Party Patriots Action, representing three million grassroots conservative activists.

00:17 — Welcome and the rise of antisemitism on the left and right

09:20 — What “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” actually are

15:24 — The same conspiracy lies recycled across decades

17:05 — How agitators exploit unmet expectations

21:59 — The Soviet origins of the modern anti-Zionism campaign

22:32 — The real history of Israel’s founding and the legal Zionist endeavor

30:25 — Why the left twists every fact against Western civilization

34:07 — Russia’s strategy for dividing a cohesive movement

39:28 — How Israel became the wedge to split MAGA

44:27 — Charlie Kirk, assassination culture, and critical pedagogy

53:08 — History as teacher and the American way forward

56:28 — Hitler’s critique of parliaments and American constitutional design

59:12 — Finding the American solution, not the Marxist one

01:01:00 — Guarding your mind in a propaganda battle space

01:12:22 — Legitimate policy debate versus antisemitic conspiracy

01:16:35 — Developing the instinct to tune out the cranks

01:20:34 — Everyone makes mistakes — repent and move forward

Links mentioned: New Discourses Podcast, teapartypatriots.org, jennybethshow.com

Guest: Tina Descovich is the CEO and co-founder of Moms for Liberty, a national parental rights organization defending the rights of parents to direct their children's education. A former elected school board member in Brevard County, Florida, Tina has built Moms for Liberty into one of the most influential grassroots parental rights movements in the country.

Key Topics Covered:

Timestamped Topic Breakdown:

00:14 — Cold open and welcome

00:17 — Federal grand jury indicts SPLC on fraud and money laundering charges

00:47 — Why Tina held a press conference before the congressional hearing

01:10 — Moms for Liberty placed on the SPLC hate map in June 2023

02:37 — Jenny Beth on the SPLC's escalation from labeling to infiltration

03:30 — The Judiciary Committee calls it "manufactured hate"

04:08 — 125 pages of documented harms: the Maryland custody case

05:09 — Defining "swatting" and "doxxing" for the audience

06:35 — The New Jersey mom whose family was swatted

06:45 — Massachusetts: 20,000 police officers trained using SPLC materials

07:46 — Jenny Beth on protesters at the only-citizens-voting bus tour

08:56 — Jenny Beth's photo on the SPLC homepage during the Charlie Kirk assassination

10:26 — The SPLC as the real hate machine

11:47 — Federal and state government reliance on the SPLC

12:46 — Iowa: 7 of 10 listed hate groups are Moms for Liberty chapters

13:28 — How the SPLC's billion-dollar endowment crushes legal challenges

15:36 — Gays Against Groomers and other small groups with no recourse

16:42 — The first House Judiciary hearing and three key witnesses

18:24 — The second hearing on July 9th or 10th with SPLC leadership testifying

19:14 — The Chick-fil-A Foundation's 2017 donation to the SPLC

20:29 — The cost of grassroots resistance: cyberattacks and Philadelphia

21:59 — Defining real hate vs. exercising the First Amendment

23:29 — Standing up for donors who stand with us

24:03 — Donate to Moms for Liberty

24:38 — The Moms for Liberty D-Day celebration on the USS Midway, June 6th

25:23 — Closing thanks and steel spine

25:35 — Subscribe and where to find the show

25:53 — Narrator outro

Links Mentioned:

Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121

Guest: Hon. Mark Meadows — former U.S. Representative for North Carolina's 11th Congressional District (2013–2020), former White House Chief of Staff to President Donald Trump, founding member of the House Freedom Caucus. Meadows remains a leading conservative voice on election integrity, executive branch reform, and the America First agenda.

Key topics covered:

Timestamps:

00:18 — Cold open: 87% of Americans agree only citizens should vote

01:31 — Welcome and introduction of Hon. Mark Meadows

02:58 — How the SAVE America Act became a national fight

03:31 — Strategy: attach the SAVE America Act to every single bill

05:48 — Senators Mike Lee, Ron Johnson, Rick Scott, and Ted Cruz

07:30 — Senate hypocrisy: Warren housing bill passes while SAVE America Act stalls

09:14 — Why does the Senate spend big money but not pass a low-cost bill?

10:31 — Why a Trump veto threat matters

12:28 — Call to action: Capitol switchboard 202-224-3121

13:44 — The President's veto power and the Reagan rule on heat

15:46 — Election fallout: Cassidy loss, Cornyn vs. Paxton, Memorial Day stall

16:56 — Reconciliation 2.0, the DOJ weaponization fund, and the parliamentarian

19:20 — Amendments to load up: full SAVE America Act, voter ID, SNAP EBT photo

20:49 — Amendment tree vs. unlimited voter-orama explained

23:38 — The 50-48 Kennedy amendment defeat — why Collins, Murkowski, McConnell, Tillis voted no

25:36 — Attaching the SAVE America Act to FISA reauthorization

28:06 — The JD Vance and parliamentarian idea

29:03 — Reconciliation 3.0 explained — taxes, regulations, military spending

32:53 — The June 12 FISA deadline and the all-hands week

33:58 — The fourfold call to action recap

35:11 — Twenty-one legislative days: the next six weeks decide it

36:00 — Thank you and close

Links mentioned:

John McLaughlin is the CEO and partner of McLaughlin & Associates and one of America's leading pollsters, with decades of experience reading the national mood. He has conducted all six of Tea Party Patriots Action's most recent national surveys and worked on President Trump's 2016, 2020, and 2024 campaigns.

Robert McNeily is Director of Broadcasting and Grassroots Engagement at Tea Party Patriots Action. He works directly with the organization's three million grassroots activists on legislative campaigns including the ongoing push to pass the SAVE America Act.

Key topics covered:

Episode timestamps:

00:14 — Cold open — the political class does not want you to see these numbers

01:19 — Welcome to The Jenny Beth Show with John McLaughlin and Robert McNeily

02:13 — Methodology — likely voters, sample size, and why details matter

06:27 — Fraud in government programs is theft from taxpayers — 81% agree

08:42 — Permanent system to detect fraud before money walks out — 83% agree

11:33 — Affordability, the 39 trillion debt, and the inflation connection

14:43 — Activists, the SAVE America Act, and calling Congress

15:30 — Birthright citizenship and the original meaning of the 14th Amendment

18:08 — Assimilation, English, and one nation under God — 72% agree

22:35 — Border security, sanctuary policies, and national identity

27:19 — Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and global shipping lanes

31:05 — Call to action — Capitol switchboard 202-224-3121

33:26 — Political violence has no place in America — 83% agree

37:17 — White House security upgrades and the secure ballroom complex

44:48 — Defending the Constitution heading into America 250 — 64% agree

48:10 — Only U.S. citizens should vote in American elections — 82% agree

49:45 — SAVE America Act, the filibuster, and the Texas runoff

52:11 — Strategic takeaways for Republicans heading into the midterms

57:20 — The one number to put on a billboard in the Capitol rotunda

01:02:36 — Robert McNeily on the Roswell Memorial Day observance

01:05:49 — Closing — Staff Sergeant Alan W. Shaw and Arlington Section 60

Links mentioned:

Capitol switchboard — 202-224-3121

passthesaveamericaact.com

whitehouse.gov/contact

teapartypatriots.org

jennybethshow.com

mclaughlinonline.com

Guest

Walter Curt is an investigative journalist, senior fellow at Restoration of America, and founder of WC Dispatch (wcdispatch.com). His investigative work focuses on government waste, fraud, and abuse, with recent coverage in Restoration News titled "Unbridled Spending: Billions for Medicaid Expansion Congress Never Approved." A former mechanic of 10 years before launching his own investigative platform, Walter combines hands-on data analysis with on-the-ground reporting. Find him on X at @WCDispatch.

Key Topics Covered

• How DOGE's 229-million-row HHS Medicaid dataset blew open the home healthcare fraud story

• The Michigan demolished building that billed $2.4 million in Medicaid claims

• Why blue-state Medicaid expansion drives the highest spending and the fewest prosecutions

• $180 billion spent on home healthcare since 2020 — and why Walter believes most of it is fraud

• The dentist office dissolved in 2004 that bills over a million dollars a year for autism treatment

• Why Vice President JD Vance's $1.5 million prosecution threshold insults every taxpayer

• Why Elon Musk's trillion-dollar DOGE savings target was right all along

• The Oregon Medicaid provider list that has only removed 8 providers in 26 years

• Dr. Oz, CMS, and the fraud task force taking 800 hospice organizations off the books in LA County

• What every taxpayer should be asking their elected officials right now

Timestamped Topic Breakdown

00:18 — Cold open — Jenny Beth introduces Walter Curt and the Medicaid home healthcare story

01:09 — What made Walter start investigating the Medicaid expansion programs

02:00 — Inside the 229-million-row HHS dataset DOGE released — what's actually in it

03:01 — Mapping the data and connecting Medicaid billing codes to providers

05:03 — What Medicaid expansion was supposed to do — and the opposite of what it's doing

07:10 — Michigan: the trifecta takeover, the changed billing codes, and the spending explosion

07:53 — The $2.4 million demolished building that's still billing Medicaid

08:56 — Theft of taxpayer dollars — Jenny Beth and Walter on the bigger picture

10:08 — 21 of 600 Michigan businesses dissolved — $118 million in fraudulent billing

10:58 — JD Vance's $1.5 million prosecution threshold and why it's insulting

14:05 — Medicaid out of your paycheck — and why hundreds of billions in fraud is likely

16:29 — Jenny Beth defends Elon Musk's trillion-dollar DOGE savings target

20:10 — Why DOGE's young engineers ran circles around the Washington bureaucracy

22:16 — Dr. Oz shuts off 800 hospice organizations in LA County — and not one called

23:45 — Why fraud is in every state, every program, and how the turnkey industry works

26:09 — Hospice fraud — corrupting the most precious end-of-life care

28:03 — Autism treatment fraud and the dentist office dissolved in 2004

29:00 — A billion dollars a year on government laundry detergent — and why no one cares

32:29 — How fraud is driving inflation and unaffordability

35:26 — Where Walter is taking the investigation next — Wisconsin, Minnesota, California

40:05 — Oregon removed only 8 providers from the Medicaid list in 26 years

41:37 — What the Trump administration is doing right — CMS, Dr. Oz, JD Vance, RFK Jr.

44:28 — Walter's background — from mechanic to investigative journalist

45:30 — The 8(a) contract pass-through scheme and government racketeering

48:01 — COVID relief fraud, Dodge Hellcat LLC, and the negligence of Washington

51:10 — What should happen to bureaucrats who refuse to do oversight

55:41 — The biggest lie Americans are being told about federal healthcare spending

57:35 — One word for Washington's spending culture: negligence

57:58 — What every taxpayer should ask their elected officials

59:50 — Fraud Watchers — Walter's open-source state-by-state spending project

1:00:58 — Where to find Walter Curt — wcdispatch.com and @WCDispatch

Links & Resources

• Visit Walter Curt at wcdispatch.com

• Follow Walter on X: @WCDispatch

• Read his Restoration News piece: "Unbridled Spending: Billions for Medicaid Expansion Congress Never Approved" at restoration-news.com

• Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121

• Learn more about Tea Party Patriots Action at teapartypatriots.org

• Find more episodes at jennybethshow.com