The More Than Enough Podcast

From ‘What If’ to ‘Even If’: A conversation with Kia Gelinas


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We all have things that we’re afraid of. From imaginary dragons in the attic to snakes to some deeper fears, ‘What if I fail?’, ‘‘What if I let others down?’, or ‘What if I get hurt’? And our children, especially those who have experienced hard things, often carry even more of those “what ifs.”

Today we talk with Kia Gelinas, an adoptee, teacher, and mentor about what it looks like to face those fears—and how to help others in your life do the same.

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