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Top of 2025 // One of Our Most Engaged Episodes of 2025
In our world, emotional distress seems to be increasing. So, can we integrate biblical principles, evidence-based insights from psychology, and spiritual practices to help us master our emotions rather than allowing our emotions to master us? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Dr. Kevin Chapman. Kevin is a licensed clinical psychologist and the Founder and Director of the Kentucky Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders. He leads the Sound Mind Ministries and hosts The Sound Mind Show on YouTube. His most recent book is entitled Mastering Our Emotions. Together, Kevin and Jason have a hope-filled conversation about how we can master our emotions through biblical principles and the power of Christ. Kevin also touches on some of the realities and some of the misconceptions about negative emotions and gives us practical ways that we, as ministry leaders, can help others overcome negative emotions through the power of Christ.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Kevin Chapman on the connection between faith, intentionality, and the power of transformation that reaches both the heart and mind: "By partnering with the Holy Spirit and confronting those emotions, you're literally reprogramming your brain."
Kevin Chapman on the importance of analyzing and understanding the broader aspects of emotions rather than solely experiencing or describing how they feel: "Focus on the features of emotions, not just the feelings of emotions."
Kevin Chapman on the important role emotions play in guiding us through life and our spiritual journey: "Our emotions are meant to help us navigate our world, even to serve God, but we have to learn to regulate them."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
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Top of 2025 // One of Our Most Engaged Episodes of 2025
How has instant access to an overabundance of information impacted the way we experience Jesus, and what can we do about it? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye welcomes John Eldredge back to the show. John is a New York Times best-selling author, counselor, and president of Wild At Heart, a ministry dedicated to helping people discover the heart of God. His newest book is entitled Experience Jesus. Really. Together, John and Jason explore the contrast between how the world is shaping us and what Jesus is inviting us into. John also looks back on biblical history and the history of the church and helps us understand how we can experience Jesus at a deeper level.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
John Eldredge on the importance of not just a one-time encounter with Jesus but an ongoing experience that provides nourishment, both spiritually and emotionally: "There is a nourishment and a sustenance that's meant to come to us through our daily experience of Jesus."
John Eldredge on the significance of minimizing distractions and being intentional about connecting with God: "Put your phone down and learn to access the presence of God."
John Eldredge on the importance of recognizing that serving Christ isn’t merely about effort, it’s about cultivating a deeper relationship with God and allowing Him to work through us: "God wants to make more of Himself available to you as you labor for Christ."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram
Top of 2025 // One of Our Most Engaged Episodes of 2025
There’s a subtle trap in ministry leadership that many pastors fall into—without even realizing it. In this episode, Jason Daye sits down with Nicole Massie Martin, Chief Impact Officer at Christianity Today, to explore the unseen pressures that can distort your leadership, whether it shows up as insecurity, performance-driven ministry, or quiet pride.
You’ll discover:
If you’ve ever felt the pressure to perform, prove, or protect your platform, this episode offers a powerful reframe—anchored in the life of Jesus.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Nicole Martin on the importance of cultivating a personal relationship with God that allows us to hear His voice: "Having a relationship with God where we can feel the conviction of the Holy Spirit, that is the best, most important information we need."
Nicole Martin on the significance of recognizing when our drive for productivity is rooted in ego rather than purpose: "If I feel myself falling into workaholism, that's a sign that my ego might be out of check."
Nicole Martin on the importance of using the power of the Holy Spirit to serve others and uplift those around us: "The point of you having power by the Holy Spirit is so that you can empower others and distribute that power in a way that gives glory to God."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram
Learning to ask better questions can deepen your relationships, strengthen your leadership, and draw you closer to God. Discover how curiosity and humility can transform the way you lead and live.
What happens when we learn to ask better questions? How might that shape our leadership, our relationships, and even our walk with God?
In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye sits down with J.R. Briggs, founder of Kairos Partnerships and author of The Art of Asking Better Questions, to explore how thoughtful questions lead to healthier leaders and more authentic relationships.
Together, they discuss the spiritual and relational impact of asking great questions that open space for growth, curiosity, and deeper connection. Looking at how God used questions in the Old Testament and how Jesus made them central to His teaching in the Gospels, J.R. and Jason reflect on how thoughtful questions invite genuine conversation rather than one-sided proclamation.
They explore:
This conversation invites viewers and listeners to embrace the art of asking better questions, cultivating curiosity, investing intentionally in others, and discovering how.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more, at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
J.R. Briggs on the importance of asking thoughtful questions like Jesus: "Jesus asked over 300 questions in the gospels alone."
J.R. Briggs on the significance of curiosity in shaping meaningful questions: "I don't know how we ask a question without being curious."
J.R. Briggs on the importance of asking better questions for a quality life: "The quality of our lives is absolutely determined by the quality of the questions we ask God, ourselves, and others."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram
Are your thoughts shaping your life? Max Lucado shares three biblical and brain-based tools to help you tame your thoughts, renew your mind, and live with peace in Christ.
How do we tame our thoughts and renew our minds to experience lasting peace and transformation?
In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye sits down with Max Lucado, pastor and America’s bestselling inspirational author, to explore the spiritual and practical journey of renewing your mind in Christ. Drawing from his latest book, Tame Your Thoughts, Max shares three biblical and science-informed tools to transform your thinking and shape a more Christ-centered life.
Together, they discuss how the mind can be retrained through the truth of Scripture, how neuroscience affirms God’s design for mental renewal, and how to move beyond simply resisting negative thoughts to actively replacing them with God’s promises.
They explore:
This conversation encourages each of us to partner with the Holy Spirit in the renewing of our minds, choosing daily to bring our thoughts under Christ’s truth and discovering the peace, clarity, and freedom that flow from a heart aligned with Him.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more, at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Max Lucado on the importance of living each day with intention: "If you want your actions to be better tomorrow, do your best to practice careful thinking today."
Max Lucado on the significance of holding tightly to God’s truth when our thoughts try to lead us astray: "Untruth, leads to a false narrative, leads to an overreaction."
Max Lucado on the importance of letting truth take root in your mind: "Truth will take root, and that root will create a new habit of thinking."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram
What does true, biblical empathy look like for ministry leaders today? Bill and Kristi Gaultiere join Jason Daye to explore how empathy transforms trust, leadership, and our understanding of God’s love.
What does true, biblical empathy look like, and why is it essential for spiritual and emotional health in ministry?
In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye sits down with Bill and Kristi Gaultiere, founders of Soul Shepherding and authors of Deeply Loved: Receiving and Reflecting God’s Great Empathy for You. Together, they explore how empathy reflects the heart of God and helps pastors and ministry leaders experience deeper trust, healthier relationships, and renewed connection with Christ.
They discuss:
This conversation invites ministry leaders to rediscover empathy as a reflection of God’s heart—one that brings healing, connection, and renewal to those who serve and those they lead.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more, at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Bill Gaultiere on the importance of caring for people in a way that reflects the presence of Christ: "The way that we listen, the way that we care, and the way that we guide people really does minister the presence of Christ."
Kristi Gaultiere on the significance of showing people you truly care: "It's very different when people feel confident that you actually care about them."
Bill Gaultiere on the importance of grounding empathy in truth and personal responsibility: "True empathy is always connected to what is actually true, and it's connected to personal responsibility."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram
What does it take to finish well in ministry, and how can leaders guard against subtle drift that pulls them off course?
In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye sits down with Peter Greer, president and CEO of HOPE International and author of How Leaders Lose Their Way. Together, they discuss how personal drift often begins quietly, much like mission drift in organizations, and why ministry leaders must be attentive before it grows.
Drawing from the biblical example of King Solomon, Peter shares how drifting rarely happens in one moment but is often the result of small compromises and subtle shifts over time. The conversation explores how leaders can practically check in on their own drift, what warning signs to watch for, and how to take intentional steps to remain faithful to God and finish well.
They discuss:
This episode provides an opportunity to pause, reflect, and take steps toward finishing well—resisting drift and embracing the joy of a life and ministry aligned with Christ.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more, at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Peter Greer on the importance of guarding against mission drift and staying faithful to God’s calling over the long haul: "What is it that we need to do so that our lives could be marked by long-term faithfulness and not another story of drift?"
Peter Greer on the significance of being thoughtful and intentional in every relationship: "We need to be more thoughtful and intentional with a whole range of relationships."
Peter Greer on the importance of inviting trusted prayer partners into the real parts of our lives: "Who are our prayer partners who are actually invited to know and pray about the things that are going on in our lives?"
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram
What happens when the pain of an unwanted divorce collides with the calling of ministry leadership?
In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye talks with Lysa TerKeurst, president and chief visionary officer of Proverbs 31 Ministries and New York Times best-selling author, and Joel Muddamalle, director of theology and research at Proverbs 31 Ministries. Together, they co-host the Therapy & Theology podcast and co-authored the new book Surviving an Unwanted Divorce.
This conversation tackles the challenges of unwanted divorce, the role of the church community, and how pastors and ministry leaders can both endure this season personally and guide others with wisdom and compassion.
We explore:
Pastors and ministry leaders will come away with a compassionate vision for navigating unwanted divorce, finding hope in Christ’s presence, and renewed courage to walk alongside others in seasons of deep pain.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more, at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Lysa TerKeurst on the importance of loving your spouse by seeking their best, not just meeting your own needs: "Each person should seek the other's highest good inside of a marriage."
Joel Muddamalle on the significance of seeking restoration with God, even when reconciliation with others isn’t possible: "Even if restoration is not possible with that individual, as I said, the restoration with the Lord is always possible."
Lysa TerKeurst on the importance of remembering that marriage is meant to reflect Christ’s love, not replace it: "There are some dynamics where we elevate sometimes the institution of marriage above the image bearers of Christ."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram
How can the Church live out the hope of heaven on earth? N.T. Wright joins Jason Daye to explore the powerful, unifying vision of Ephesians and what it means for ministry and life today.
How can the Church embody biblical unity in a divided world and reflect heaven on earth by participating in God’s redemptive plan?
In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye welcomes Dr. N. T. Wright, one of the world’s foremost New Testament scholars and author of The Vision of Ephesians. Together they explore how Paul’s letter calls believers to a renewed imagination of heaven and earth united in Christ, and how that vision shapes both our present mission and future hope.
Dr. Wright shares practical ways he seeks personal refreshment, offers insights on the temptation to treat heaven as escapism, and reflects on how the Church can embody God’s reconciling work in divisive times.
They discuss:
This conversation invites pastors, ministry leaders, and believers alike to see Ephesians not as distant theology but as a living invitation to join God’s ongoing work of renewal, reflect His unity, and live faithfully in anticipation of heaven and earth made one in Christ.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more, at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
N.T. Wright on the importance of understanding God’s grand story: "God's plan from the start was to sum up in the Messiah everything in heaven and on earth."
N.T. Wright on the significance of understanding the Church as God’s multicultural family: "The Church, from the beginning, was the original multicultural project."
N.T. Wright on the importance of developing authentic, contextually grounded expressions of faith: "We need to develop styles of ministry, styles of worship, styles of prayer, lament, and praise, which enable us to take the whole armor of God."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram
Ministry was never meant to be a solo act.
In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye sits down with E.K. Strawser—co-vocational pastor, community physician, founder of the ’Iwa Collaborative, and author of You Were Never Meant to Lead Alone. Together they explore the power of shared leadership in ministry, drawing from Ephesians 4 and the APEST model (apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd, teacher).
Eun shares how pastors and ministry leaders can shift from leading alone to leading together, building healthier churches and ministries that last. This conversation is both biblical and practical, helping leaders avoid burnout and embrace the strengths of team-based leadership.
We discuss:
The conversation is a reminder that no leader is called to carry ministry alone—when authority is shared as Christ intended, churches grow stronger, leaders grow healthier, and the gospel multiplies with resilience.
Whether you’re leading a church, planting a ministry, or serving on a leadership team, this episode will give you hope, clarity, and practical tools for building healthy, sustainable leadership.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more, at http://PastorServe.org/network
Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Eun Strawser on the importance of how decisions are made in the church: "Decision-making in general definitely has a power hold in every church."
Eun Strawser on the significance of cultivating counter-cultural leadership in the church: "In the church, leadership criteria should be very different. It should look counter-cultural to the world."
Eun Strawser on the importance of equipping the whole church, not just its leaders, to participate in the work of God in everyday life: "Leaders are not supposed to do the work of God on behalf of their congregation."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.
Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.
Love well, live well, & lead well
Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram
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