Fruitless

On today’s episode, Josh, James (@cigarette_liker), and Jake the Lawyer join Josiah in celebrating 50 years of Fruitless. That’s right: it’s the 50th episode. We reflect on the past few years of the show, go on a number of rabbit trails, and also address the election results (hence the "bittersweet").

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Music & audio credits

• Trump Song (English Version) - Los 3 de La Habana
• Yesterday – bloom.
• Sauté (Antifa Fútbol Hooligan) - Askultura

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It's the music exchange! This month, Josh and I discuss Worry by Jeff Rosenstock and Gold by Whores. Also we are sleepy.

Music by Jeff Rosenstock, Whores, and SHADE08

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Closing out horror month, Jackal and Josiah discuss the writings of H.P. Lovecraft, specifically The Shadow over Innsmouth and At the Mountains of Madness. We all know Lovecraft was a massive racist, and that he is also one of the most influential horror writers of all time. On today's episode, we discuss why his work still resonates with us despite it's vile worldview, and look at some authors and political theorists who have reclaimed the Lovecraftian style.

Music by CO.AG Music & SHADE08

Horror month continues! This week, Vita Breva (@vitabreva) joins Jackal and Josiah to discuss Jennifer's Body (2009). We discuss the movie's poor contemporary reception and later reappraisal, the film's exploration of feminism, sexuality, and the post-911 era, the attempted character assassination of Megan Fox, as well as Vita's Girardian read on the film.

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References

• Vita's review of Jennifer's Body (2009), https://letterboxd.com/vitabreva/film/jennifers-body/1/
• "The Passion of the Christ (2004)," Girls, Guts, and Giallo, https://www.patreon.com/posts/passion-of-2004-84479521
• "The Wicker Man (1973)," Girls, Guts, and Giallo, https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicker-man-1973-108827516
• "We've all been pronouncing Amanda Seyfried wrong," Glamour, https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/amanda-seyfried-prononuciation
• "When Michael Bay Degraded Megan Fox—Then Tried to Sabotage Her Career," Marlow Stern in the Daily Beast, https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-michael-bay-degraded-megan-foxthen-tried-to-sabotage-her-career/
• "Michael Bay's Crew Bitchslaps Megan Fox," Nikki Finke in Deadline, https://deadline.com/2009/09/transformers-crew-talk-back-to-megan-fox-15879/
• "'I Eat Boys': Monstrous Femininity in Jennifer's Body," Victoria Santamaría Ibor in Babel AFIAL, PDF, https://revistas.uvigo.es/index.php/AFIAL/article/download/4301/3375
• "Popular girl goes bad, begins to devour teen flesh," Roger Ebert, https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/jennifers-body-2009
• "How Jennifer’s Body went from a flop in 2009 to a feminist cult classic today," Constance Grady in Vox, https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/10/31/18037996/jennifers-body-flop-cult-classic-feminist-horror
• "The life, death, and rebirth of Jennifer’s Body, according to screenwriter Diablo Cody," Emily St. James in Vox, https://www.vox.com/i-think-youre-interesting/2018/11/10/18080168/jennifers-body-diablo-cody-interview-reborn

Music & audio credits

• Toccata and Fugue in D Minor - Johann Sebastian Bach
• Through the Trees - Low Shoulder
• Yesterday – bloom.

Alt title: Despite Looking Like an Ogre, Danzig Does Not Have Layers

Horror Month at Fruitless continues! This week, Caleb Sutton (@theboghog) joins Jackal and Josiah to discuss Misfits and the king of horror punk, Glenn Danzig. Please listen, I suffered through Verotika (2019) for this one. 

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References

• Caleb's Glenn Danzig playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/40bEmV8T8eYYu4lTOzNvdd?si=152672dfb81546f4
• Verotika (2019)
• Review of Verotika from someone who was at the premiere, Lee Kolcz, https://letterboxd.com/leekolcz/film/verotika/
• "Before Bauhaus: How Goth Became Goth," Trash Theory on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GbgQBjBfPA
• "Siouxsie & The Banshees: Jet Black Pop Darlings ("Spellbound")," Trash Theory on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpcGfgNIhUM
• "Glenn Danzig Reflects on Early Punk Days," Rolling Stone on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5QTFDxX2yE
• "Glenn Danzig on the Horror that Scares Him," Rolling Stone on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jx0VeMbfJk

Audio credits

• Toccata and Fugue in D Minor - Johann Sebastian Bach
• Last Caress - Misfits
• I Put a Spell on You - Screamin' Jay Hawkins
• Release the Bats - The Birthday Party
• Cities in Dust - Siouxsie and the Banshees
• Nazi Punks Fuck Off - Dead Kennedys
• Bloodfeast - Misfits
• Astro Zombies - Misfits
• Night of the Living Dead - Misfits
• Return of the Fly - Misfits
• Bullet - Misfits
• Where Eagles Dare - Misfits
• Mother - Danzig
• Theme for a Jackal - Misfits

It's Horror Month at Fruitless, and we're kicking it off with some Italian horror. Jesse Hawken (@jessehawken, Junk Filter) joins Josiah and Jackal to discuss Don't Torture a Duckling (1972), Lucio Fulci's rural giallo about a string of child murders happening in a small Italian village. We discuss Catholicism, modernity, and Disney in Italy. 

Content warning: discussion of sexual violence and pedophilia.

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Music & audio credits

• Toccata and Fugue in D Minor - Johann Sebastian Bach
• Quei giorni insieme a te - Riz Ortolani
• Yesterday – bloom.
• Quei giorni insieme a te - Ornella Vanoni

This is the sixth installment of the Fruitless Bookclub, a show-within-a-show, featuring Chris Barker and Jake the Lawyer, where we read all those nonfiction books we've been meaning to read. Today's episode is about ...And Forgive Them Their Debts: Lending, Foreclosure, and Redemption From Bronze Age Finance to the Jubilee Year by Michael Hudson. We're talking debt forgiveness! We're talking bronze age names that we can't pronounce! And we're talking about how a lot of modern political and religious concepts originate in bronze age practices that are now uniformly rejected by our institutions and their weird Austrian economists. Come join us as we learn how the Biblical calls for debt forgiveness were, in fact, very literal.

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Music & Audio credits

• Yesterday – bloom.
• Violence - Parquet Courts

Jackal and Josiah catch up on some current events before we launch into Horror Month in October. We discuss an article about the LAPD conducting a pot raid, Mark Robinson's "black Nazi" scandal, Israel's attack on Lebanon, and the fearmonger over Haitian immigrants before zooming in on the indictment of Eric Adams and why being the Mayor of New York is a curse.

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References

• "LAPD raid goes from bad to farce after gun allegedly sucked onto MRI machine," Lester Black in SFGate, https://www.sfgate.com/cannabis/article/lapd-cannabis-mri-raid-19789448.php
• "Calif. cops forced to return $800,000 in pot after controversial raid," Lester Black in SFGate, https://www.sfgate.com/cannabis/article/calif-cops-forced-to-return-800k-in-cannabis-19370034.php
• "Netanyahu vows to use ‘full force’ against Hezbollah and dims hopes for a cease-fire," Bassem Mroue, Tia Goldenberg, Melanie Lidman in Associated Press, https://apnews.com/article/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-gaza-news-09-26-2024-486f5aecac210273611124f9ade95fc6
• "Israel Deliberately Blocked Humanitarian Aid to Gaza, Two Government Bodies Concluded. Antony Blinken Rejected Them." Brett Murphy in ProPublica, https://www.propublica.org/article/gaza-palestine-israel-blocked-humanitarian-aid-blinken
• "'A heartless disgrace': Des Moines passes homeless camping ban amid public uproar," Virginia Barreda in Des Moines Register, https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/local/des-moines/2024/09/16/des-moines-passes-homeless-camping-ban-amid-public-uproar/75249608007/
• "Why do they hate Haitians?" Josiah Sutton in Digital Burnout, https://josiahwsutton.substack.com/p/why-do-they-hate-haitians
• "‘I’m a black NAZI!’: NC GOP nominee for governor made dozens of disturbing comments on porn forum," Andrew Kaczynski and Em Steck in CNN, https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics/kfile-mark-robinson-black-nazi-pro-slavery-porn-forum/index.html
• "It's cliché to point out hypocrisy," Josiah Sutton in Josiah's Media Round-Up, https://josiahlist.substack.com/p/its-cliche-to-point-out-hypocrisy
• Lauren Windsor's accusation toward Chris Rufo: https://x.com/lawindsor/status/1836932778933313704
• Steven Monacelli independently verifying email address linked to Rufo; thread also includes Rufo's attempt at making an OnlyFans for Lauren Windsor: https://x.com/stevanzetti/status/1837172969367359653
• "Magazine writer Olivia Nuzzi is on leave over an alleged relationship with RFK Jr.," Rachel Treisman in NPR, https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5120486/olivia-nuzzi-rfk-jr-ny-magazine
• "Pizza Rat: New York City's infamous rodent, explained," Margarita Noriega in Vox, https://www.vox.com/2015/9/21/9366729/ny-subway-pizza-rat
• "Rudy Giuliani Hits Rock Bottom for the 967,345th Time," Bess Levin in Vanity Fair, https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/rudy-giuliani-hits-rock-bottom-for-the-967345th-time
• United States of America v. Eric Adams, Sealed Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/d9/2024-09/u.s._v._adams_indictment_1.pdf
• TrueAnon thread of indictment highlights: https://x.com/trueanonpod/status/1839322899918061593
• Additional indictment highlight from Ali Najmi: https://x.com/ali_najmi/status/1839336789234131051

Music & audio credits

• 90's Lofi type beat - Liadiii
• Yesterday – bloom.
• "Vance defends pet-eating claims, says he's willing to 'create stories'," Politico on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVJ_Icosa3s
• Sentimental - Dan Darmawan
• Niebla - El Shirota

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It's the music exchange! This month, Josh and I discuss Christmas Island by AJJ and Atomizer by Big Black. Also Josh talks about going to Riot Fest.

Music by AJJ, Big Black, and SHADE08

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Joseph (@gross_online) joins Josiah, Josh, and James (@cigarette_liker) to finally accomplish the dream of having four J names on one episode, and also to discuss the most recent season of The Righteous Gemstones. Shout out to monster trucks.

Music by The Righteous Gemstones & SHADE08