The boys are joined by Zac Davis, a musician, thinker and writer who is perhaps best known for the mid-'00s noise rock/psychedelic no wave band Lamsbread, but has also done solo guitar noise and various strains of electronic music. Zac has also been writing some killer stuff and publishing it on Substack, which is linked to below. Fun fact: Zac and Adam both grew up on Cape Cod.

Topics of conversation move from underground music (Mark Morgan, Stefan Jaworzyn, Ft. Thunder and otherwise) before we get into discussions on the groovy heroin using Columbia Professor Carl Hart, and the neoliberal optimizing of hard drug use. Finally, the conversation ends on a criticism of the ever apparent theoretical incoherence of Adam Curtis, who Adam and Ben have soured on since the Red Scare interview.

LINKS:

Zac Davis Substack: https://zacdavis.substack.com/
Zac Davis discogs: https://www.discogs.com/artist/777386-Zac-Davis
Trilogy Tapes with Zac Davis: https://soundcloud.com/the-trilogy-tapes/ttt-nts-080218-with-zac-davis
Ulli Lommel interview: https://halloweenlove.com/interview-with-filmmaker-and-actor-ulli-lommel/
Opioid crisis stats: https://www.hhs.gov/opioids/about-the-epidemic/opioid-crisis-statistics/index.html#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20an%20estimated%2010.1,and%20745%2C000%20people%20used%20heroin.
Mark Morgan/Sightings Interview: https://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/sightings
Stefan Jaworzyn interview: https://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/stefan-jaworzyn
Reza N Interview: https://www.neroeditions.com/docs/reza-negarestani-engineering-the-world-crafting-the-mind/
Carl Hart at GQ: https://www.gq.com/story/imagining-a-world-where-all-drugs-are-legal-carl-hart
Carl Hart CNN interview: https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/02/27/ivy-league-professor-uses-heroin-advocates-legalization.cnn

Ulli Lommell's The Tenderness of Wolves at Mubi: https://mubi.com/films/tenderness-of-the-wolves