System of Systems

By Adam Lehrer, Matthew Denicola

What's System of Systems about?

All culture is propaganda. Everything you hold dear is connected to that which subjugates you. Deconstruct art, culture, and politics, and attempt to understand the pervasive conformism that has saturated it all.

Hosted by Adam Lehrer and Matthew DeNicola

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System of Systems episodes:

06.24.2024
LARP LIFE (w/ Ben Werther)
Ben Werther is a conceptual artist, born in Nashville and living in New York, whose new exhibition at No Gallery, “WHEN YOU CAN NO LONGER SPEAK, SING ME A SONG.” , presents a fascinating sequence of photographs that initially look like...
05.31.2024
ANTIFAshionable (w/ Elena Velez)
Famed fashion designer and high fashion's Dimes Square rep Elena Velez discusses her last two insta-iconic shows, the mud fight of SS 2024 and the Gone with the Wind Ball of FW 2024, and her resilience in the face of high and...
05.28.2024
PREVIEW Laibach Merch Game (w/ Saul Adamczewski and another)
Musician and former member of the Fat White Family Saul Adamczewski and another lowly Brit join the show to finally settle their score with Adam and America OST Saul Adamscewski "Gulag" Syd Barrett "Rats" Insecure Men "All Women Love Me" Laibach "Brat Moj" Country Teasers "Country Fag"
05.20.2024
No Fun to be Had (W/ Carlos Giffoni)
Amongst the many legends Adam met in Osaka, experimental musician, comics writer/illustrator and creator of the now legendary and historic No Fun Festival, which captured noise and experimental music at the peak of its power in the 2000s. Carlos discusses his...
05.15.2024
300 and Beyond (w/ Paul K and Kurt)
After months of criticism about the fight card, 300 indeed ended up being the best martial arts card in history, and launched fan favorite and fighter's fighter Max Holloway to instant superstardom after he knocked out Justin Gaethje in the...
05.08.2024
REPOSTED Rapedman (W/ Damen Corrado)
Damen Corrado is a Chicago-based writer and actor with old school links to Adam Parfrey and the broader American underground. In 2019, the late Parfrey's Feral House publishing imprint published a book co-written by Damen and James "Jinx" O'Connor. Entitled...
05.03.2024
PREVIEW Roll the Black Dice (w/ Bjorn Copeland)
Bjorn Copeland is a mixed media artist, sculptor, and musician perhaps best known as a founding member of the long-lived and ever shapeshifting experimental rock group Black Dice. FULL EPISODE Soundtrack: Black Dice "Seabirds" Black Dice "Re-Reading" ...
04.24.2024
Safety Propaganda 101
At the end of 2023, Adam took to the podium to explain the Safety Propaganda ideology and the Counter-Agency of the Avant-Garde to a small but captivated audience. This event was sponsored by UNCENSORED NY
04.23.2024
Safety Propaganda 101
At the end of 2023, Adam took to the podium to explain the Safety Propaganda ideology and the Counter-Agency of the Avant-Garde to a small but captivated audience. This event was sponsored by UNCENSORED NY
04.22.2024
Weebed Out
Adam is back from Japan: tales of shopping, noise, fem-boys, etc OST Merging Moon "Blackout before Shadow" Prurient and Linkekraft "Container of Souls" Beherit "Sadomatic Rights" LLoyd Banks "Empathy" Blancmange "Living on the calling" LINKS: Hospital NWN Fest
04.01.2024
PREVIEW DECA DYKE
Shortly before Adam's journey to Japan, he and Matthew discuss two trashy arthouse thrillers from the past and present: Ingmar Bergman's 1980 made for TV movie From the Life of the Marionettes and Rose Glass' 2024 bodybuilding lesbian romance thriller...
03.14.2024
Spiced Out (W/ Benjamin Braddock and Monica Milkers)
Dune: Part 2, Denis Villeneuve's second half of his adaptation of Frank Herbet's sci-fi masterpiece Dune, is out. It's huge. Everyone has an opinion. So do we. Dr. Benjamin Braddock and Mommy Milkers join the show to discuss the film....
03.01.2024
The Avatar is a Pornographer (w/ Emma Stern)
A week before the opening of her exhibition the Pond Society in Shanghai, artist Emma Stern discusses her work, porn, ABBA and the creation of avatars. Matthew Denicola is the new producer and co-host of SOS by SP. We...
01.29.2024
PREVIEW Welcome to Helltown (W/ Edward Giles and Max Julian Eastman)
Conceptual artist, musician, and founding member of iconic NYC power electronics group Final Solution, Edward Giles, joins the Safety Propaganda network. The primary topic is the reissue of Edward's industrial project Helltown Inc on former guest Max Julian Eastman's...
01.15.2024
PREVIEW Barney Does it All (W/ Bjarne Melgaard)
Regularly referred to as "The most famous Nordic Artist since Edvard Munch," painter, sculptor, filmmaker and installation artist Bjarne Megaard joins the audiocast to dish on decades in the art world. Topics covered: Bjarne's new film Barney Does...
01.10.2024
Poor Greek (W/Zane)
Yorgos Lanthimos has not been a preferred filmmaker of the Safety Propaganda universe. Too self-consciously "weird". Too Letterboxd. His new film Poor Things, starring Emma Stone in a virtuosic performance as a young woman with the brain of an infant,...
12.23.2023
Kanye Versus the Vultures (w/ Matthew Denicola)
Kanye is trying to release a new record, Vultures, with Ty Dolla $ign, and his enemies are refusing to get its samples cleared, leaving the record unreleased. Kanye, of course, isn't staying quiet about what's happening behind the scenes, and...
12.12.2023
PREVIEW Life Long Insomniac (W/ Stephen Tunney AKA Dogbowl)
At the end of November, friends of SP Newton Gallery hosted an exhibition of paintings and cartoons by American artist Stephen Tunney. Many of those in attendance likely had no idea that these disorienting, vivid, and fantastical images were made...
11.27.2023
Olympian Fall (W/ Laje Amare and William Landry)
We are now a few weeks passed the 2023 Mr. Olympia contest. Bodybuilding seems to have reached its pinnacle, with Phil Heath being the champion who set the standard for what a bodybuilder should look like in the 2010s....
11.13.2023
Worshipping at the Alter of the Boul God (W/ Boul God Records)
Boul God records is a Philadelphia-based bizarre music label that traffics in all manner of surreal and mind-bending contemporary styles of music. From the cavernous, early Death in June influenced post-punk/neofolk of Gorseddd FM, to the disorienting blend of head...
11.06.2023
And Usually Just a Syringe (with Conor Tomaka)
Artist, musician, academic, and member of legacy American experimental band ONO Conor Tomaka joins the show once more, but with a specific purpose this time around. John Frusciante is already a God-level figure in the oeuvre of Safety Propaganda, but...
10.12.2023
Loads All Over Anne Hathaway (w/ Ryan Simon)
Montana's most avant-garde good ol' boy and the editor of the magazine American Vulgaria, Ryan Simón, joins the show to discuss him and Adam's adventures in Los Angeles, Terry Richardson, art history as a history of cooming, and the circumstances...
10.04.2023
PREVIEW Crankn Nuts (W/ Dan Baltic)
Dan Baltic, writer and co-host of the New Write podcast, releases his debut novel Nutcrankr for Terrorhouse Press. It is a contemporary novel about masculinity and male delusion; one man's plummet into debasement. Baltic joins the show to discuss the...
09.05.2023
At the Wall of Transgression: A Whitehouse Retrospective (W/ Xylon Otterburn)
Adam has been re-reading David Keenan's historical biography on the rise of Industrial Music, England's Hidden Riverse, after it was re-published with extended material over the summer. That book primarily looks at the rise and legacies of Coil, Nurse with...
08.28.2023
PREVIEW New Millennium Men (w/ Alex Kazemi)
Writer Alex Kazemi wrote his first novel, Your Truly, Brad Sela, back in 2013 when he was only 19-years-old. In a true time capsule of the 2010s, Alex published an excerpt of that manuscript on his Tumblr page, and it...
08.17.2023
PREVIEW The Death of a Socerer (W/ Bradford Kessler and Benjamin Kellogg)
One of the greatest American film artists, William Friedkin, has passed away at the age of 87. The son of Ukrainian Jewish immigrant parents (who fled their country after the antisemitic pogroms of the early 20th Century), Friedkin was a...
08.11.2023
All Along the Lonesome County Highway (W/ Walter Kirn)
Celebrated novelist and essayist Walter Kirn, author of works of fiction like Up in the Air and non-fiction such as Lost in the Meritocracy and veteran of major media outlets ranging from GQ to Esquire to Vanity Fair and beyond,...
07.27.2023
PREVIEW Married Mid (w/ Scott Litts)
Scott Litts is a New York-based writer, linked tangentially to Expat Press who also publishes a literary site called Violence Café. While the reason for this discussion was Scott's excellent piece on the Angelicism01 movie, Film01, we ended up discussing...
07.12.2023
Fucked Up in 20 Different Ways (w/ Jack Skelley)
Jack Skelley is a writer and a poet that has been publishing books since the 1980s. His career began in the early '80s in LA when he worked at the Venice-based literary and arts center Beyond Baroque. Beyond Baroque was...
07.06.2023
PREVIEW Rapedman (w/ Damen Corrado)
Damen Corrado is a Chicago-based writer and actor with old school links to Adam Parfrey and the broader American underground. In 2019, the late Parfrey's Feral House publishing imprint published a book co-written by Damen and James "Jinx" O'Connor. Entitled...
06.28.2023
Probable Mossad (W/ Thomas Moore and Audrey Szasz)
Writers Audrey Szasz and Thomas Moore have both just released new novels for Philip Best's Amphetamine Sulphate. Audrey's novel is called Counterillumination, a wildly psychedelic collection of prose where agents and counter-agents wage psychological warfare upon one another against an...
06.24.2023
(PREVIEW) Ritualistic Humilation (W/ Sven Loven)
Artist Sven Loven joins Adam in his living room where they consume edibles and discuss Sven's new show, 'Humiliation Ritual', at No Gallery in New York. For the exhibition, Sven turned to portraiture and creates a time capsule, or perhaps...
05.25.2023
Communication Medium (W/ Max Julian Eastman)
Max Julian Eastman is a noise musician known for recording music under his own name and with projects like Greathumour and Tantric Death as well as the proprietor of what we consider to be one of the best American noise...
04.28.2023
PREVIEW Fantasy Core is Over (W/ Grant Tyler)
Our friend from Los Angeles, the curator of the new LA gallery Imperial as well as online editor of Caesura Magazine Grant Tyler, joins the show to discuss the inability of the modern subject to properly look at art, the...
04.20.2023
Aspirational Mid (w/ Eva and Elena Sullivan)
During Art Basel Miami Beach 2022, Hadrian Belove asked Adam to meet up with him at Soho House, where he was with two young ladies Eva and Elena Sullivan. When Adam arrived, he was immediately taken with the gals' intelligence...
04.18.2023
UNLOCKED Attacking the Castle from Within (W/ BILLY CORGAN)
Around August of 2022, Adam opened up his email to find what was a message of profound encouragement, and could hardly believe it when it was addressed from "William Patrick Corgan," otherwise known as the frontman of Adam's first ever...
04.03.2023
Raver Symbolism (W/ Tom Koehler)
Friend of the show and visual artist Tom Koehler brings Adam into his studio in Ridgewood, shows him some new landscape paintings, and discusses his art, the gallery that he runs, plastic surgery, weed paranoia, quitting nicotine, and even his...
03.24.2023
Riding the Trenwave: Safety Propaganda Records (W/ Zac Davis)
What started as a Substack and a podcast but became a prolonged conceptual art project IS NOW a full-circuit multimedia assault! Making good on his promise to broaden Safety Propaganda's reach, Adam launches SAFETY PROPAGANDA RECORDS in more attempts to...
03.14.2023
Shadow Ring Covers (W/ Eric Schmid and Connor Tomaka)
Artist/philosopher/mathematician Eric Schmid and artist, researcher, and member of industrial music collective Ono Connor Tomaka join SOS by SP. We discuss Connor and Eric's recent collaborative essay on Dimes Square, in my mind the only one of many Dimes...
02.27.2023
PREVIEW Fear of Lewdness (w/ Cliff Sargent)
Cliff Sargent runs the very popular Youtube literary show Better than Food where he offers his candid thoughts on the books he reads. He has excellent taste, and is capable of communicating his thoughts in a refreshingly legible manner:...
02.21.2023
Romping and Stomping (w/ Marika Thunder)
Marika Thunder is a New York-based artist who befriended the crew somewhere during the pandemic. Here, her and Adam discuss heroin, hard drugs, creative development, and Marika regales him with tales of her bohemian childhood as the only daughter of...
01.27.2023
Copenhagen Cowpunks (W/ Bradford Kessler and Glen Rockney)
In this episode, brothers in arms Adam, Will, artist Bradford Kessler and Rare Candy co-host Glen Rockney convene to discuss Nicolas Winding Refn's new six-hour Netflix series Copenhagen Cowboy, and the broader career arc of the Danish auteur. Other...
01.09.2023
PREVIEW Attacking the Castle from Within (W/ BILLY CORGAN)
Around August of 2022, Adam opened up his email to find what was a message of profound encouragement, and could hardly believe it when it was addressed from "William Patrick Corgan," otherwise known as the frontman of Adam's first ever...
01.06.2023
Emperor Bezos (W/ Lev Parker)
Old friend, colleague within the Counter-Agency of the Avant-Garde, and editor of Morbid Books Lev Parker stops by SOS by SP once more to discuss collaborating with Adam on the Morbid Books-published Safety Propaganda Manifesto for Conceptual Warfare. There is...
12.16.2022
PREVIEW Flame it All (W/ Kevin Kautzman and Brad Kelly)
The men of Art of Darkness podcast, Brad Kelly and Kevin Kautzman, join Adam to discuss Kanye and the legacy of endurance based performance art, the appeal of performance enhancing drugs, the late playwright Sarah Kane, Emil Cioran and the...
12.08.2022
Conservacucking (w/ Glen Rockney)
Old friend Glen of Rare Candy and Back Wall pods joins us once again to further stuff the digital void with some more content: Balenciaga, pedos, Kanye. You know the drill. Soundtrack: Hunting Lodge "Shadow out of TIme" Seigneur...
10.24.2022
Mostly Gut and Nut (W/ Kevin Tobin)
Friend, artist, and the lone homosexual attendee of Adam's bachelor party Kevin Tobin joins SOS by SP. We discuss his current solo show at Lubov Gallery, his unique marital situation, art world lore, and the absolute worst in contemporary painting....
10.05.2022
(PREVIEW) Damaged Blonde Ambition (W/ Jack Mason and Filthy Armenian)
Enlisting the incendiary voices of old friends Filthy Armenian, of Filthy Armenian's Adventures and the Back Wall, and Jack Mason, of the Perfume Nationalist, the conversation turns towards the formerly retired pop cultural trope that is the damaged blonde, once...
09.23.2022
(PREVIEW) Hellenic Glory (W/ Zach Brown)
Adam has returned from his travels abroad. To inaugurate the return of System of Systems by Safety Propaganda, artist Zach Brown joins the show to discuss his work, his time at RISD, pussy, travel, Melrose Place, Vince Gilligan, ancient Greece...
08.27.2022
Immersed in Death (W/ Worth)
Adam speaks with American harsh noise master Worth, aka William Van Gorder, who has a new record on White Centipede Noise called Sacred Violence Noise. Will recorded the album while on residency in Thailand, and throughout the conversation relays the...

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System of Systems episodes:

LARP LIFE (w/ Ben Werther)

ANTIFAshionable (w/ Elena Velez)

PREVIEW Laibach Merch Game (w/ Saul Adamczewski and another)

No Fun to be Had (W/ Carlos Giffoni)

300 and Beyond (w/ Paul K and Kurt)

REPOSTED Rapedman (W/ Damen Corrado)

PREVIEW Roll the Black Dice (w/ Bjorn Copeland)

Safety Propaganda 101

Safety Propaganda 101

Weebed Out

PREVIEW DECA DYKE

Spiced Out (W/ Benjamin Braddock and Monica Milkers)

The Avatar is a Pornographer (w/ Emma Stern)

PREVIEW Welcome to Helltown (W/ Edward Giles and Max Julian Eastman)

PREVIEW Barney Does it All (W/ Bjarne Melgaard)

Poor Greek (W/Zane)

Kanye Versus the Vultures (w/ Matthew Denicola)

PREVIEW Life Long Insomniac (W/ Stephen Tunney AKA Dogbowl)

Olympian Fall (W/ Laje Amare and William Landry)

Worshipping at the Alter of the Boul God (W/ Boul God Records)

And Usually Just a Syringe (with Conor Tomaka)

Loads All Over Anne Hathaway (w/ Ryan Simon)

PREVIEW Crankn Nuts (W/ Dan Baltic)

At the Wall of Transgression: A Whitehouse Retrospective (W/ Xylon Otterburn)

PREVIEW New Millennium Men (w/ Alex Kazemi)

PREVIEW The Death of a Socerer (W/ Bradford Kessler and Benjamin Kellogg)

All Along the Lonesome County Highway (W/ Walter Kirn)

PREVIEW Married Mid (w/ Scott Litts)

Fucked Up in 20 Different Ways (w/ Jack Skelley)

PREVIEW Rapedman (w/ Damen Corrado)

Probable Mossad (W/ Thomas Moore and Audrey Szasz)

(PREVIEW) Ritualistic Humilation (W/ Sven Loven)

Communication Medium (W/ Max Julian Eastman)

PREVIEW Fantasy Core is Over (W/ Grant Tyler)

Aspirational Mid (w/ Eva and Elena Sullivan)

UNLOCKED Attacking the Castle from Within (W/ BILLY CORGAN)

Raver Symbolism (W/ Tom Koehler)

Riding the Trenwave: Safety Propaganda Records (W/ Zac Davis)

Shadow Ring Covers (W/ Eric Schmid and Connor Tomaka)

PREVIEW Fear of Lewdness (w/ Cliff Sargent)

Romping and Stomping (w/ Marika Thunder)

Copenhagen Cowpunks (W/ Bradford Kessler and Glen Rockney)

PREVIEW Attacking the Castle from Within (W/ BILLY CORGAN)

Emperor Bezos (W/ Lev Parker)

PREVIEW Flame it All (W/ Kevin Kautzman and Brad Kelly)

Conservacucking (w/ Glen Rockney)

Mostly Gut and Nut (W/ Kevin Tobin)

(PREVIEW) Damaged Blonde Ambition (W/ Jack Mason and Filthy Armenian)

(PREVIEW) Hellenic Glory (W/ Zach Brown)

Immersed in Death (W/ Worth)

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