"Keep up or be left behind”, “innovate or die”, and “no risk, no reward” are phrases CEOs and entrepreneurs alike seem to have echoing in their ears more and more regularly. How does one stay with the pack or even break out? Christo Botes, Executive Director of Business Partners Limited, and Dudu Mofokeng, Founder and CEO of Legaci Dry Cleaners and Laundry, join Hlubi Mboya and Gareth Armstrong to talk through their tips and experiences.