Welcome back to another episode of the Future|Money series! Today, we’re thrilled to be in conversation with with Felipe Brugues, Ana Rodriguez, and Juan Carlos Leon, an inspiring collective based in Mexico City and Quito. Today we are diving into their project, Re/Simulate. This fascinating artwork digs deep into the effectiveness of financial and economic programs, often found in self-help business literature and political policies across the globe. Using interactive computational simulations of economic models, Re/Simulate steers one huge 3D clay printer. As we explore the sculptural possibilities, the gaps, pitfalls, and even the strengths of digital financial systems and strategies become tangible and apparent.

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Join this week’s episode where we welcome our newest host, Chris Lawrence, Chief Program Officer of the Interledger Foundation. Chris converses with Dr. Andrew Mangle, an Associate Professor from Bowie State University. They discuss the partnership between the Interledger Foundation and Bowie State, which provides students with learning opportunities in fintech, open-source technology, and Digital Financial Inclusion. Don’t miss the insights into Dr. Mangle’s journey, student motivations, mentorship, and the upcoming event. #amtrackathon.

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In this episode, we are in conversation with Lena Ghaninejad. She will be sharing more about her artwork, Liminal Matter. The installation aims to illustrate the evolution of money from tangible matter that originates directly from the Earth (grains, food & stones) into an increasingly immaterial entity that leaves more people behind as financial systems complexify and access to technology remains limited -thus asking the question: how can we best share the planet’s resources?.’

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In this episode, we are in conversation with Esther Mwema. She will be sharing about her project, Sikhula Sonke: Living Archives of Afrofuturist Village Banking, which she created together with Jon Adam Chen and three different communities in Zambia and South Africa. Sikhula Sonke is an isiXhosa phrase which means ‘we grow together.’ The project is a mixed media artwork and storytelling project that documents informal savings groups as a way of understanding inclusive financial models in Southern Africa. In recognition of the wisdom that already exists within local communities and is little understood outside of them, the project focuses on women who hold a wealth of knowledge on inclusive, open financial systems.

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In this episode we talk with Subhashish Panigrahi, he is a civil society leader and documentary filmmaker with an interest in tech, media, and society. His films focus on conservation and assertion and broader issues of access, digital rights, and openness. He advocates for community-led media, open tech development, and indigenous sovereignty. Subhashish will share more about his childhood in India and how language influences social constructs and access to technology. In his new short film, ”Bringing Down A Mountain,” a docufiction set in the Odia Language, he uses Open Source imagery to reimagine how technology is built, implemented, and affects financial inclusion.

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In this episode, we converse with XiaoXiao, also known as Xiaoji Song. She is an artist, writer, and researcher currently based in Berlin, Germany. Her work centers around community-specific experiences, influenced by texts, games, and performances. These experiences often touch on topics such as migration, techno-politics, and the performative aspect of political memory, particularly their relevance to global phenomena. In this episode, we will delve into her work “Parallel Society, “The Parallel Society is a cyber-drama that explores financial inclusion and equity by featuring the parallel fate of two characters, a Lebanese migrant in Barcelona and a villager in rural China’s Henan province. The game sheds light on financial traumas, such as behavior patterns and psychological impacts as results of financial exclusions experienced by these two characters, and radically imagines a world where such barriers no longer exist, but the characters are still trapped in the old pattern.

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In this weeks episode, We will talk with Mia Wright Ross who is an Artist, leather artisan, designer, educator, and entrepreneur. She specialised in the leather Cording technique and was one of the eight artists selected to participate in the Future|Money Arts and Culture grant by Interledger Foundation.

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🌟The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future.

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The first episode is a conversation with Kokayi Walker, a Grammy-nominated musician and composer who co-designed the Future Money grant.

We discussed how he uses technology in his art practice, And how he’s experienced the tension of financial exclusion, and his collaborations with international artists.

We also explored in our chat how the seemingly simple exchange of money for creatives awakens larger issues of privacy, surveillance, fair wages, exploitative commerce, and the complexities of navigating financial exchange across borders. In the second half of the podcast, we discussed the symbiotic and sometimes fraught relationship between arts and technology, and how the Interledger Foundation’s Future Money Grant program is providing working artists across disciplines and geographies the opportunity to explore and propel discourse on the vital need for financial inclusion today.

🌟The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future.

The Future|Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation

Theme music: “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise (Tribeofnoise.com).

Future|Money Podcast by the Interledger Foundation is licensed to the public under CC BY 4.0

The Future Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation. We invite people of all backgrounds and disciplines to imagine what a financially inclusive future might be.

In the first episodes, we’re focusing on the creative arts and interviewing artists whose work provokes new ways of thinking about a more expansive, inclusive future of how we get, spend, and share money.

🌟The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of innovators and stay connected to the ideas shaping the future.

The Future|Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation

Theme music: “Summer Instrumental” by NazAlakai, from the Tribe of Noise (Tribeofnoise.com).

Future|Money Podcast by the Interledger Foundation is licensed to the public under CC BY 4.0