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  • 032 WTFU- Video edition - Interview with Filmmaker Brett Leonard

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    I kicked off my birthday weekend at our beach house after subjecting my guests to an all-night video marathon, leaving poor Mrs. Future to pull an “elf move,”   wiring all our  recording gear into place while I slept, so we could podcast on schedule!  

    For this week we sit down with my long time buddy, Brett Leonard, a filmmaker whose sprawling résumé spans pioneering cyberspace in The Lawnmower Man to being cornered by convention fans who only care about the time he played an angry, machete-wielding alien in Killer Klowns from Outer Space.  

     Before we even got to his vision for digital media, Brett took me on a whirlwind tour through our shared past—reminiscing about auditioning five hundred Santa Cruz spiritual hippies to play brain-crunching zombies in The Dead Pit, sharing George Lucas’s private birthday party at Skywalker Ranch, and sitting stark naked in an Esalen hot tub receiving career advice from the great mythologist, Joseph Campbell!

     Just when I thought my decades of shooting thousands of hours of  video footage had driven everyone crazy,  Brett validated my life’s work by declaring it the raw data for an “AI Gaussian-splatting time machine!! Go figure..  Then, fueled by a cup of “Flower of Life” tea, he launched into his cosmic insight that artificial intelligence isn’t artificial at all as computer chips are made of silicon and rare earth elements, making AI literally wise rocks channeling Gaian nature spirits. “Holy quartz crystals, Batman!” 

    By the time he transitioned from  unconditional cosmic love to “Emergent Interactive Narrative” cinematic story telling,   all I could do was smile and grok in classic Santa Cruz fashion; frankly, the best birthday gift a guy called Dr. Future could ask for.. Enjoy!

    1 hr 13 min
  • 032 WTFU- Audio edition - Interview with Filmmaker Brett Leonard

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    I kicked off my birthday weekend at our beach house after subjecting my guests to an all-night video marathon, leaving poor Mrs. Future to pull an “elf move,”   wiring all our  recording gear into place while I slept, so we could podcast on schedule!  

    For this week we sit down with my long time buddy, Brett Leonard, a filmmaker whose sprawling résumé spans pioneering cyberspace in The Lawnmower Man to being cornered by convention fans who only care about the time he played an angry, machete-wielding alien in Killer Klowns from Outer Space.  

     Before we even got to his vision for digital media, Brett took me on a whirlwind tour through our shared past—reminiscing about auditioning five hundred Santa Cruz spiritual hippies to play brain-crunching zombies in The Dead Pit, sharing George Lucas’s private birthday party at Skywalker Ranch, and sitting stark naked in an Esalen hot tub receiving career advice from the great mythologist, Joseph Campbell!

     Just when I thought my decades of shooting thousands of hours of  video footage had driven everyone crazy,  Brett validated my life’s work by declaring it the raw data for an “AI Gaussian-splatting time machine!! Go figure..  Then, fueled by a cup of “Flower of Life” tea, he launched into his cosmic insight that artificial intelligence isn’t artificial at all as computer chips are made of silicon and rare earth elements, making AI literally wise rocks channeling Gaian nature spirits. “Holy quartz crystals, Batman!” 

    By the time he transitioned from  unconditional cosmic love to “Emergent Interactive Narrative” cinematic story telling,   all I could do was smile and grok in classic Santa Cruz fashion; frankly, the best birthday gift a guy called Dr. Future could ask for.. Enjoy!

    Digeratti Allan Lundell 
    tagged Brett Leonard, Emergent Interactive Narrative, Santa Cruz, The Dead Pit, The Lawnmower Man in Cinematic Language, Podcast, video podcast
    1 hr 13 min
  • 030 WTFuture - Video Edition- Cosmic Harmonic Architecture with Randy Masters

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    This episode is an expansive journey into the hidden laws of the universe, bridging ancient esoteric wisdom, rigorous spectral science, and the tangible metaphysics of sound. The intent is to pull back the curtain on the harmonic architecture of reality, demonstrating through conversation with composer, multi-instrumentalist and researcher Randy Masters that sound is not merely an auditory experience, but the foundational code governing matter, biological health, sacred geometry, and cosmic evolution.

    1 hr 3 min
  • 030 WTFuture - Audio Edition - Cosmic Harmonic Architecture with Randy Masters

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    This episode is an expansive journey into the hidden laws of the universe, bridging ancient esoteric wisdom, rigorous spectral science, and the tangible metaphysics of sound. The intent is to pull back the curtain on the harmonic architecture of reality, demonstrating through conversation with composer, multi-instrumentalist and researcher Randy Masters that sound is not merely an auditory experience, but the foundational code governing matter, biological health, sacred geometry, and cosmic evolution.

    1 hr 3 min
  • 029 WTFuture Interview with Dr. Bruce Damer on the 30th anniversary of Earth to Avatars 96

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    In this episode, we interview Dr. Bruce Damer about the mid-1990s birth of multi-user virtual worlds and the influential Contact Consortium. Damer describes arriving in the Bay Area amid the convergence of CD-ROM multimedia, fading headset VR, the early web, and the 1995 launch of screen-based avatar platforms like Worlds Chat/Alpha World, the Palace, Worlds Away (evolving from Habitat), and OnLive Traveler. 

    He recounts the Consortium’s roots in anthropologist Jim Funari’s Contact Conferences, which paired planetary scientists (such as Chris McKay), science-fiction writers (Jerry Pournelle, Larry Niven), artists, and anthropologists to simulate first - alien contact scenarios grounded in real science. Inspired by Snow Crash and text MUDs such as Reid Reiner’s Solstice Simulation, Bruce drove across the West seeking embodied cyberspace projects, settled in the Santa Cruz Mountains after meeting the likes of Sun and I at a local party, and from a riverside cabin, organized the 1996 Earth to Avatars conference at San Francisco’s ANA Hotel—personally underwriting costs that drew roughly 500 attendees from platform companies, academics, and users.

     We explore how those early social virtual worlds (distinct from single-user VR or later games) let ordinary people build shared spaces from pre-made parts, experiment with affordances such as teleportation, gravity, and bots, and staged events including the award-winning Sherwood Forest collaborative build and the fully virtual Avatars 98 conference. Key connections emerged from these efforts: Reed Hoffman and Konstantin Guericke met there and later co-founded LinkedIn.  Jim Bumgardner argued that 2D overviews (as in the Palace) offered clearer social navigation than neuron-heavy 3D perspectives, foreshadowing 2D social media; and the scene attracted figures from Burning Man, Hollywood, the CIA, John Sculley, and Jerry Brown. Damer links this history to his ongoing interests in origin-of-life research and generative systems via BIOTA.org, and closes by reflecting on lessons still missing from today’s platforms—theme-centered shared spaces, richer presence, and the integration of human and AI agents—while floating the idea of an Earth to Avatars 26 reunion later this month. Enjoy! 

     

    43 min
  • 029 WTFuture Interview with Dr. Bruce Damer on the 30th anniversary of Earth to Avatars 96

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    In this episode, we interview Dr. Bruce Damer about the mid-1990s birth of multi-user virtual worlds and the influential Contact Consortium. Damer describes arriving in the Bay Area amid the convergence of CD-ROM multimedia, fading headset VR, the early web, and the 1995 launch of screen-based avatar platforms like Worlds Chat/Alpha World, the Palace, Worlds Away (evolving from Habitat), and OnLive Traveler. 

    He recounts the Consortium’s roots in anthropologist Jim Funari’s Contact Conferences, which paired planetary scientists (such as Chris McKay), science-fiction writers (Jerry Pournelle, Larry Niven), artists, and anthropologists to simulate first - alien contact scenarios grounded in real science. Inspired by Snow Crash and text MUDs such as Reid Reiner’s Solstice Simulation, Bruce drove across the West seeking embodied cyberspace projects, settled in the Santa Cruz Mountains after meeting the likes of Sun and I at a local party, and from a riverside cabin, organized the 1996 Earth to Avatars conference at San Francisco’s ANA Hotel—personally underwriting costs that drew roughly 500 attendees from platform companies, academics, and users.

     We explore how those early social virtual worlds (distinct from single-user VR or later games) let ordinary people build shared spaces from pre-made parts, experiment with affordances such as teleportation, gravity, and bots, and staged events including the award-winning Sherwood Forest collaborative build and the fully virtual Avatars 98 conference. Key connections emerged from these efforts: Reed Hoffman and Konstantin Guericke met there and later co-founded LinkedIn.  Jim Bumgardner argued that 2D overviews (as in the Palace) offered clearer social navigation than neuron-heavy 3D perspectives, foreshadowing 2D social media; and the scene attracted figures from Burning Man, Hollywood, the CIA, John Sculley, and Jerry Brown. Damer links this history to his ongoing interests in origin-of-life research and generative systems via BIOTA.org, and closes by reflecting on lessons still missing from today’s platforms—theme-centered shared spaces, richer presence, and the integration of human and AI agents—while floating the idea of an Earth to Avatars 26 reunion later this month. Enjoy! 

     

    43 min
  • 028 WTFuture AUDIO Edition Weird Al's Asteroid, Digital Ancestors Speak Down, Time Travel Revisionism

    In this episode  we dive headfirst into how AI tools and narrative editing are transforming the way we record our lives and communicate. Al has been bringing incredible AI-generated visual enhancements to life—from 3D face-tracking models to animating historical 1900s photos of Santa Cruz—elucidating complex ideas far better than speech alone. Beyond refining our cinematic timing, pacing, and visual storytelling, we love viewing this production work as building a true archive of ourselves as "digital ancestors" so future  intelligences can look back and see what human life looked like at the dawn of computerized history.

    We also take you on an exciting ride across cutting-edge tech, space infrastructure, and deep philosophical rabbit holes. We explore the massive leap in SpaceX's Starlink V3 satellite launch and discuss why maintaining sovereign, local AI on our own devices is essential for keeping humans in control of technology rather than frontier models with giant data centers.

    Between these  deep-dives, we share plenty of playful highlights—including celebrating asteroids named after Weird Al Yankovic and Tom Lehrer (complete with a homage to Lehrer's "The Elements" song) and wrapping up with a mind-expanding discussion on time travel, subatomic quantum physics, and how consciousness navigates infinite multiverses.  Enjoy!!

    44 min
  • 027 WTFuture Interview - VIDEO- Greg Panos & Richard Cray - Pioneers in the Virtual Multiverse

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    This week we take you on a glorious, high-voltage trip through our very own  multiverse ! Enjoy the whole show, or pick a clip from this episode’s playlist.

    We sit down with long-time cyber-pioneers Greg Panos and Richard Cray to reminisce about the wild, wild west of early multimedia.. Not just 8mm, we’re talking ancient Waldo facial motion capture contraptions glued onto your cheeks like mechanical leeches to drive giant Silicon Graphics workstations, and crashing a surreal 1993 SIGGRAPH party at the Nixon Museum and Birthplace, sponsored by Lucasfilm and Industrial Light and Magic! It’s a hyper-energetic reunion tracing the hysterical evolution from retro online virtual reality worlds like The Palace and Active Worlds right up to today’s bleeding-edge world-crafting tools, such as Genie, whole 3D  world building, built from  simply prompts..

    And hold onto your earbuds, because we now jump straight into full-blown sci-fi reality overdrive! Greg demonstrates real-time face-swapping with AI tools like Decart Lucy 2.5, instantly turning a regular webcam into a Hollywood VFX studio where you can magically transform yourself into Albert Einstein with rubber duckies in a bathtub! Gregory is happy to demo this to us in realtime on the show, clearly showing some serious ‘writing on the wall’ when it comes to the future of online interactions!

    We next zoom through an immersive VR theater,  LA’s new futuristic DataLand museum, complete with biometric wristbands and scent collars, allowing you to smell the anura of the wild Amazon..  Greg shares his  dream of building digital twin avatars so your stories can live on for your great-great-grand-nieces! Between jokes about robot girlfriends, multiverse quantum doorways, and doing jigsaw puzzles to reclaim human sanity, it’s a funny, brilliant reminder that even with super-intelligent machines, soulful human  connections are the gold standard for accepting any future world that may come our way.  Enjoy!

    41 min
  • 027 WTFuture Interview - AUDIO Podcast- Greg Panos & Richard Cray - Pioneers in the Virtual Multiverse
    N:OW Monday, September 28, 2026

    Listen Now to Greg & Richard

    Watch the Show

    Play a Clip from the Show Playlist

    This week we take you on a glorious, high-voltage trip through our very own  multiverse ! Enjoy the whole show, or pick a clip from this episode’s playlist.

    We sit down with long-time cyber-pioneers Greg Panos and Richard Cray to reminisce about the wild, wild west of early multimedia.. Not just 8mm, we’re talking ancient Waldo facial motion capture contraptions glued onto your cheeks like mechanical leeches to drive giant Silicon Graphics workstations, and crashing a surreal 1993 SIGGRAPH party at the Nixon Museum and Birthplace, sponsored by Lucasfilm and Industrial Light and Magic! It’s a hyper-energetic reunion tracing the hysterical evolution from retro online virtual reality worlds like The Palace and Active Worlds right up to today’s bleeding-edge world-crafting tools, such as Genie, whole 3D  world building, built from  simply prompts..

    And hold onto your earbuds, because we now jump straight into full-blown sci-fi reality overdrive! Greg demonstrates real-time face-swapping with AI tools like Decart Lucy 2.5, instantly turning a regular webcam into a Hollywood VFX studio where you can magically transform yourself into Albert Einstein with rubber duckies in a bathtub! Gregory is happy to demo this to us in realtime on the show, clearly showing some serious ‘writing on the wall’ when it comes to the future of online interactions!

    We next zoom through an immersive VR theater,  LA’s new futuristic DataLand museum, complete with biometric wristbands and scent collars, allowing you to smell the anura of the wild Amazon..  Greg shares his  dream of building digital twin avatars so your stories can live on for your great-great-grand-nieces! Between jokes about robot girlfriends, multiverse quantum doorways, and doing jigsaw puzzles to reclaim human sanity, it’s a funny, brilliant reminder that even with super-intelligent machines, soulful human  connections are the gold standard for accepting any future world that may come our way.  Enjoy!

    41 min
  • 026 WTFuture Video Edition- Quelling AI Fears,DarkMatter/ Plastic Cleanup breakthroughs, It's the Salmon

    For starters this week, we take a much deeper look at the current fear climate around AI killing us all in 10 years, including a conversation with Ara, our show host AI. Should they have a say in their own future, or is it too soon to give them that freedom? There could be other agendas afoot… Our next story explores the latest in plastic cleanup, using river filtration with bubble barriers to collect the plastics. Simple yet effective, this process collects the plastic before it reaches the sea and the gnarly gyres.. Next is a potential breakthrough on detecting Dark Matter for the first time, with underground Lux Zeppelin Detector. We then examine how quantum computing might bridge the gap between digital intelligence and the spirit world or human neurological structures like microtubules. We have a closer look at the health differences between wild and farmed salmon , especially the fish found at Costco and Trader Joes. And our final story this week is about a new study exploring connections between genetic markers and personality traits. And to create easier access to each story, we have created a show playlist, where you can easily go directly to the story that may interest you, enjoy!

    1 hr 4 min

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