She grew up bouncing on her mom's lap at Mizz Magazine. Now, Bess Wohl has a Pulitzer Prize, a Tony nomination, and a Broadway play asking the question she spent her whole life afraid to answer.
In this episode of Gamechangers, playwright Bess Wohl sits down with Katharine Quinn for a conversation that covers everything from the future of AI in theater, the stat about Broadway history that will genuinely make your jaw drop, and how she found out she won the Pulitzer... playing catch at the park.
Liberation changed something in audiences. Bess tells us exactly what, and why she's not done asking the hard questions.
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Director and Executive Producer
Katharine Quinn

Assistant Director
Eli Tokash

Editor
Brian Truong

Photographer
Olivia Kuan Romano

Post Production Supervisor
Jake Ropka

0:00 Intro
1:20 AI Hot Take
2:29 Funeral Attire
9:10 Pulitzer Moment
10:27 Review Horror
14:10 The Big Question
15:51 Mom Regrets
20:14 Seeing the Show
24:34 Transubstantiation
30:00 40-Year Stat

What happens when two legends of the ballroom scene are handed the keys to one of Broadway's most iconic shows? Choreographers Omari Wiles and Arturo Lyons sit down with host Katharine Quinn to talk about Cats: The Jellicle Ball. tThe Tony-nominated production that turned a junkyard full of cats into a ball, and a classic into something completely electric. From competing on the same floors two decades ago to redefining what Broadway movement can look like, this conversation goes deep on craft, culture, and what it really means to bring ballroom to the Great White Way.

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🎟️ Cats: The Jellicle Ball is playing now at the Broadhurst Theatre.

Christopher Gattelli has 120+ Broadway credits in his ensemble alone!
The director and choreographer of Schmigadoon! sits down with Katharine Quinn to talk about the show that was always destined for Broadway. It just had to take the long way. From a cold Instagram DM with the creator of Despicable Me, to working alongside Julie Andrews, to reconstructing a Golden Age musical from scratch in two weeks flat.
If you've ever felt the tap break in Corn Puddin' in your bones, this conversation is for you.
Schmigadoon! is now on Broadway at the Nederlander Theatre.

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Executive Producer
Katharine Quinn

Editor
Brian Truong

Associate Producer
Eli Tokash

Photographer
Olivia Kuan-Romano

Post Production Supervisor
Jake Ropka

0:00 Intro
0:51 The Instagram DM
1:40 Dream Job Origin
3:22 Love Letter Defined
5:36 Homage vs. Spoof
9:26 TV to Broadway
13:53 DC to Broadway Changes
16:23 Tap's Big Comeback
17:44 The Magic of Transitions
26:18 The Broadway Avengers

Michael Arden and Dane Laffrey have built seven Broadway shows together, and with The Lost Boys, they may have outdone themselves. Flying rigs on curves. Lifts in the floor. A vampire story told with the rigor of a magic trick. Katharine Quinn sits down with the Tony nominated design duo for a conversation about what it actually takes to make theater that surprises you and why they're never, ever done.

Director and Executive Producer
Katharine Quinn

Assistant Director
Eli Tokash

Editor
Brian Truong

Photographer
Olivia Kuan Romano

Post Production Supervisor
Jake Ropka

Meet Dane & Michael 0:20
Loving Puzzles 1:46
Chasing Surprise 2:40
Looks Impossible 4:52
Flying Explained 5:09
Wire Philosophy 7:22
Lighting Design 8:50
Preview Process 16:27
Collaborative Journey 19:32
Most Fun Yet 21:24

She's produced two Broadway shows in one season. She survived as an assignment editor, worked the Gore 2000 campaign, and bet on herself anyway. Tony Award-winning producer Eva Price sits down with Katharine Quinn to talk about how naivete is a superpower, why joy is an act of resistance, and what it really takes to bring a show from a Gristedes basement to the St. James Theatre.

We talk about Titanique, Liberation, Jagged Little Pill, and what it means to fall in love with a show hard enough to produce it.

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Director and Executive Producer
Katharine Quinn

Assistant Director
Eli Tokash

Editor
Brian Truong

Photographer
Olivia Kuan Romano

Post Production Supervisor
Jake Ropka

0:00 Meet Eva Price
1:39 News to Broadway
4:06 Healthy Delusion
8:24 First Shows Fail
15:36 Discovering Titanique
17:26 Liberation Surprise
19:43 The Through Line
21:45 Joy Resists
23:50 Broadway vs. AI
28:28 Jagged Little Pill

Cinco Paul is the writer behind Despicable Me, The Secret Life of Pets, and Schmigadoon! on Apple TV+. Today, he sits down with Katharine Quinn to talk about what it actually feels like when the thing you've been carrying for three decades finally lands on a Broadway stage. We get into the songs he cut, the ones he wrote in a panic, the director who changed everything, and the couple he watched kiss each other in the front row during previews.

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🎭 Schmigadoon! on Broadway is now playing at the Nederlander Theatre

Director and Executive Producer
Katharine Quinn

Assistant Director
Eli Tokash

Editor
Brian Truong

Photographer
Olivia Kuan Romano

Post Production Supervisor
Jake Ropka

0:05 Meet Cinco Paul
0:35 First Love
2:23 Apple Said Yes
7:52  10 New Songs
9:07 Melissa's Epiphany
9:47 DC Lessons
13:26 Chris Gattelli Magic
22:36 Sweet Jesus Revealed
25:16 Power of Love
28:35 Sweeney Todd!

35:52 Theater's Magic Moment

She choreographed The Notebook on Broadway, she's the force behind The Agnes Index, and she's about to take on Wild Party at City Center. In this episode of Game Changers, Katharine Quinn sits down with director-choreographer Katie Spelman for a wide-ranging conversation about what it really takes to build a career behind the table. Katie gets candid about the moment she walked off stage for good, what associate life actually looks like when the wings are closed, and why she started counting the men and women on every Broadway creative team. Plus: Brigadoon, film & TV choreography, and a rapid fire round that goes fully off the rails.
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Director and Executive Producer
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Photographer and Production Assistant
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Post Production Supervisor
Jake Ropka

0:42  Meet Katie Spelman
1:06 Chicago Ballet Roots
5:14 Leaving the Stage
7:27 Finding Steven Hoggett
21:34 The Notebook Begins
30:43 Staging "I Want To Go Back"
32:41 Wild Party Preview
38:49 The Agnes Index
39:56 Who's Behind the Table?
54:29 Fixing Broadway's Power

In Episode 4 of Game Changers Season 2, Katharine Quinn chats with Tony-winning Director, Alex Timbers. Alex reveals the chaotic brilliance behind Moulin Rouge, the resurrection of Beetlejuice, and confetti cannons of intestines. Listen as one of Broadway's most visually audacious storytellers talks about maximalism, TikTok saves, and why tech should feel like a spa day.
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Photographer and Production Assistant
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Timestamped Chapters
0:00 Four Broadway Shows
2:15 Public Access Origins
8:45 Fake Dance Company
15:30 Hell House Chaos
28:42 Jersey Boys Mentorship
35:18 Emo President Musical
52:47 Moulin Rouge Development
1:08:23 Beetlejuice's Resurrection
1:32:15 Tech as Collaboration
1:45:50 Future of Design

In Episode 3 of Game Changers Katharine sits down with Cody Renard Richard, the stage manager behind Hamilton, Ragtime, and 24 Broadway shows. From fighting to keep his first Broadway gig to launching a scholarship that's given $500K to emerging stage managers, Cody's journey proves that asking for what you want changes everything. This conversation gets real about navigating a "dying" Broadway, leading with joy under pressure, and why the theater industry is finally embracing multi-hyphenates. Plus: the moment he knew he'd made it, and why his friends are his biggest inspiration.
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Director and Executive Producer
Katharine Quinn
Producer
Jake Ropka
Editor
Brian Truong
Associate Producer
Eli Tokash
Photographer and Production Assistant
Olivia Kuan Romano

00:00 Cody Renard Richard
02:46 Multi-Hyphenate Acceptance
05:07 High School Mentor
07:01 Broadway Awakening
09:27 Never Accept No
11:14 Leadership Style
14:29 Kelly Clarkson Show
18:31 Intentional Visibility
20:43 Broadway's Future
23:09 Millennial Resilience

Jenny Gersten is reshaping musical theater at New York City Center—and she's not afraid to take risks. From programming Bat Boy as a gala to championing forgotten gems like High Spirits, the VP and Artistic Director of Encores! is proving that bold choices and passionate collaborators make magic happen. In this conversation, Jenny opens up about her legendary theatrical lineage, the brutal realities facing nonprofit theater, her unexpected detour running Virgin Voyages' entertainment, and why she believes community-building is the secret ingredient to great art. Plus: exclusive reveals about the 2026 Encores! season, including La Cage aux Folles with Billy Porter and Wayne Brady.

This is Game Changers—your backstage pass to the innovators transforming Broadway.

Director and Executive Producer
Katharine Quinn

Producer
Jake Ropka

Editor
Brian Truong

Associate Producer 
Eli Tokash

Photographer and Production Assistant
Olivia Kuan Romano

0:00 Meet Jenny Gersten
8:45 Bat Boy Resistance
15:32 Theatrical Lineage
22:18 Williamstown
31:47 Selecting Encores! Shows
38:29 2026 Season Reveals
45:52 Virgin Voyages Era
53:16 Fixing Broadway
1:02:41 Heroes and Inspiration