Emma sits down with Liza Treyger for a chaotic, funny, and surprisingly thoughtful conversation about internet brain rot, porn, queer identity, Taylor Swift discourse, religion, dating, family, and the terrifying moment you realize ChatGPT might actually be making everyone dumber. They get into pronouns, bisexuality, anti-AI rage, bad habits, rumination, weddings, flirting, support groups, and why some people are way too comfortable being wrong.