Our guest this week on the pod is Gemma Hartley, the author of Fed Up: Emotional Labor, Women, and the Way Forward.

Gemma Hartley is a writer, reporter, and author. In September 2017, Gemma wrote an article that went viral, titled Women Aren’t Nags – We’re Just Fed Up. That article was viewed by over 2 billion people and gave voice to the frustration and anger of countless women, breaking the dam on the conversation around emotional labor. Fed Up picks off where the article left off, expanding on the role and impact of emotional labor in our lives. Fed Up is on sale now.

Gemma sat down with Ana Maria Alessi, and talked about what she wants the book to accomplish on a national level, why the reach of her article surprised her, the difference between how boys and girls are rewarded for empathy, and more.