Terrell Owens and Chris Spencer sit down with NBA champion and All the Smoke co-host Matt Barnes for a wide-ranging conversation about basketball, sports media, race, family, and life after the NBA. Matt talks about building All the Smoke with Stephen Jackson, creating a platform where athletes can speak openly, and his thoughts on the changing sports media landscape, including Stephen A. Smith and the rise of hot-take culture.

Matt also opens up about growing up biracial in Sacramento, experiencing racism as a child, and the traumatic KKK incident that forced his family to move. He discusses fatherhood, raising his children, and having conversations with them about race and police brutality. He also reflects on his NBA career, including Kobe Bryant, the Lakers, Ron Artest, his infamous confrontation with Kobe, Russell Westbrook, and adapting to find his role in the league.

The conversation also covers Matt's NBA championship with the Warriors, his sons experiencing the championship run, his interviews with Barack and Michelle Obama, and the future of All the Smoke Productions. Matt and TO share stories about their experiences as professional athletes, media personalities, and fathers while discussing what comes next after sports.

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Terrell Owens and Chris Spencer get to the point with a wide-ranging conversation about the NFL, sports, culture, and entertainment. They break down the biggest storylines from around the league, including quarterback play, injuries, standout performances, and the teams and players making headlines. They also bring back Get Your Popcorn Ready, highlighting the players who stood out during the week, before making their Week 3 NFL picks.

The conversation then moves beyond football as TO and Chris discuss Shaq's controversial honorary badge, the backlash surrounding a Converse advertisement, Anthony Edwards' latest Adidas campaign, and representation in sports and advertising. They also react to Tyler Perry's viral dance and the conversation surrounding it.

To close things out, Chris introduces Criss-Cross, a new segment where they react to comedian Aries Spears' comments about Martin and Black Panther, leading to a larger conversation about Black entertainment, criticism, controversy, and supporting people within the culture.

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Terrell Owens and Chris Spencer sit down with comedian Jo Koy for a wide-ranging conversation about his rise in comedy, the struggles he faced breaking into the industry, and the hustle that helped him build a career on his own terms.

Jo Koy looks back at coming up through comedy clubs, Chocolate Sundae, Def Comedy Jam, and Showtime at the Apollo, including the barriers he faced as a Filipino comedian and the importance of Black comedy in his development. He shares stories about Dada, Biggie, Chris Tucker, Eddie Murphy, Katt Williams, Dave Chappelle, and the people who helped him create opportunities along the way.

The conversation also covers Jo Koy's approach to stand-up and storytelling, his new Netflix special Blue in the Face, why he still hands out flyers even after selling out major venues, and his goal of eventually directing and creating comedy specials for other comedians. TO and Chris also share stories from their own careers while discussing success, adversity, and what it takes to keep pushing forward.

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Terrell Owens and Chris Spencer get to the point with a wide-ranging conversation covering NFL Week 1, sports, culture, and entertainment.

TO and Chris break down the biggest stories from around the NFL, including Drake Maye, Caleb Williams, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, the 49ers, Myles Garrett's injury, the Cowboys, and the Browns' quarterback situation. They debate which players and teams have the most to prove as the season continues, then reveal their Popcorn Power Five, highlighting the players who made the biggest impact in Week 1.

The conversation then moves beyond football as TO and Chris discuss Ted Cruz's appearance on College GameDay, NIL, the role of government in college sports, and whether politicians should stay out of sports. They also weigh in on Colin Kaepernick and Jay-Z's public disagreement, debate the controversy surrounding Fat Joe, and talk about Nia Long receiving a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

The episode wraps up with a conversation about Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married Again?, relationships, and the lessons the movie explores about family, imperfection, and marriage.

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Terrell Owens and Chris Spencer sit down with comedian, actor, and content creator KevOnStage, known for his stand-up, viral comedy videos, and digital entertainment career, for a wide-ranging conversation about comedy, content creation, the Black church, Hollywood, and building a career on his own terms.

Kev talks about discovering comedy at a young age, performing in church, moving to Los Angeles, and how he built an audience through consistent content creation. He also breaks down why authenticity matters more than going viral, how social media has changed the entertainment industry, and why live stand-up remains the thing he loves most.

The conversation also explores Kev's relationship with the Black church, his transition beyond church-based comedy, and Hollywood's changing relationship with digital creators.

Kev also opens up about the loss of his brother and how that experience inspired his Grief Sucks comedy tour. He talks about finding humor through grief, his family, his future in entertainment, and his goal of creating opportunities for other talented Black creators.

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Terrell Owens and Chris Spencer discuss the NFL season, football culture, comedy, and some of the biggest conversations happening around sports and entertainment. They break down Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Tua Tagovailoa, the pressure on today's quarterbacks, and what it takes to succeed at the highest level.

The conversation gets serious as TO opens up about concussions and the physical toll of playing in the NFL. He and Chris also discuss Druski's CTE comedy sketch, the reaction to jokes about brain injuries, and where the line should be drawn when comedians tackle sensitive subjects.

TO shares stories from his childhood, getting bullied, learning to defend himself, and the fight with Hugh Douglas that became one of the NFL's most infamous off-field stories. He also reflects on his career, what he misses about playing football, what he wishes he had done differently, and why he wasn't able to leave the NFL on his own terms.

The conversation also takes some unexpected turns as TO and Chris reflect on Tupac, Biggie, Messi's retirement, athlete longevity, and life beyond football, while sharing plenty of stories and opinions along the way.

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Terrell Owens and Chris Spencer sit down with Joy Taylor, sports media personality and longtime sports television and radio host, for a wide-ranging conversation on sports, culture, relationships, and life.

Joy opens up about entering her “auntie era,” why she never wanted children, and the expectations women face around marriage, motherhood, and building a career. The conversation then moves into Joy’s journey in sports media, the evolution of women in sports, and what it’s like navigating a male-dominated industry.

The three also get into the NFL, athlete media coverage, the relationship between players and the media, and some of the biggest personalities and storylines in sports. Joy shares her perspective on the current sports media landscape while Terrell Owens reflects on his own experiences as an athlete and how the media shaped the way his career was perceived.

The conversation goes well beyond sports, touching on relationships, social media, dating, fame, friendship, and the differences between men and women when it comes to modern relationships.

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Terrell Owens and Chris Spencer get to the point in the debut episode of Get TO the Point.

TO and Chris break down the upcoming NFL season, make their Week 1 predictions, and discuss some of the biggest storylines around the league, including Patrick Mahomes, the Rams, the Cowboys, young NFL receivers, and what it takes to succeed at the highest level. TO also reflects on his legendary career, his touchdown celebrations, playing with Jerry Rice, and how he developed into one of the NFL’s most dominant receivers.

The conversation then goes beyond football, covering the San Francisco 49ers’ offseason drama with Jed York and Daejon Love, Colin Kaepernick’s national anthem protest and its lasting impact on athletes, the power NFL players have when they stand together, and the influence of entertainers like Dolly Parton and Michael Jackson. Get to the Point is more than football. It’s sports, culture, entertainment, and everything in between.

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