Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business

Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business

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  • The Lies We Tell Ourselves as Small Business Owners

    Ep. 54 Kelly Metras and Kelly Bush explore the inner narratives and doubts that small business owners face. They discuss the pressure of maintaining a positive facade, the loneliness of entrepreneurship, and the importance of acknowledging mental health struggles. The conversation covers overcoming impostor syndrome, managing customer reviews, and recognizing that not every venture can succeed. They emphasize the significance of self-care, seeking help when needed, and letting go of unattainable perfection. Listeners are encouraged to release their own self-limiting thoughts, embracing resilience and adaptability in their entrepreneurial journey.


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    Chapters:


    0:00 Lies Business Owners Tell Themselves

    5:18 Balancing Customer Feedback and Business Identity in Hospitality

    9:45 Illusion of Knowing Everything in Business Ownership

    15:13 Mental Health Challenges of Business Ownership

    21:26 Confronting Self-Deception and Embracing Personal Growth

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    25 min
  • Power of Representation: How Film and Photography Shape Social Narratives with Jackie McGriff

    Ep. 53 What if the lens you see yourself through could transform the way the world sees you?

    This Black History Month, we’re celebrating artistry and storytelling with photographer Jackie McGriff, who turned her personal journey of self-love into a mission to uplift others.

    From capturing the soul of Rochester to redefining representation in media, Jackie shares how photography became her tool for healing, empowerment, and changing the narrative.


    Notable Quotes:
    1. "Challenge accepted. You're gonna come out of this session...believing you are photogenic and beautiful." – Jackie McGriff
    2. "Don't let anyone tell you or make you believe that you are not good enough." – Jackie McGriff
    3. "If this is gonna be done, it has to be now while I have a little bit of time." – Jackie McGriff on starting her filmmaking career during t



      4. Resources:
      • Jackie Photography: Website
      • Our Voices Project: Website
      • Representation in Cinema Podcast: Available on Spotify
      • Galentine's Day Event at Memorial Art Gallery: Feb. 13th 2025 Tix at MAG Rochester
      • Films mentioned: "No Other Land," "The Substance" starring Demi Moore


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        About the Guest:

        Jackie McGriff is a photographer, podcaster, and filmmaker dedicated to telling authentic, nuanced stories of Black, Brown, and Indigenous communities. As the founder of Our Voices Project, she challenges harmful stereotypes through storytelling that inspires action. Her journey into filmmaking began as an escape but evolved into a powerful tool for Black liberation, fueled by the realities of systemic racism and the need for change. Jackie’s work, including the Silent Screams photography project and In This Moment chapbook series, amplifies marginalized voices while pushing audiences toward meaningful activism. She also helps lead the Rochester chapter of Black Women Photographers, advocating for visibility and representation. Through art, activism, and storytelling, Jackie is shaping a world where diverse narratives are honored and empowered.



        🎧 Tune in for an inspiring conversation on identity, creativity, and the power of seeing yourself in a new light. #BlackHistoryMonth #Photography #RepresentationMatters

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        36 min
      • How Trump Policies Impact Business: Tariffs, Inflation + Deportation

        Ep. 52 How will Trump policies impact small businesses? On Inauguration Day Kelly Metras and Kelly Bush dive into the evolving political and economic landscape as of January 20, 2025. With a dash of humor and a glass of tequila in hand, they analyze how new policies might influence small businesses across the United States. The duo weighs in on tariffs, deportation, and other proposed changes, drawing from their rich business experience to provide critical, albeit candid, evaluations.


        A major point of discussion is the impact of tariffs on the cost of imported goods such as tequila, avocados, and limes—staples that significantly affect the hospitality industry. They also critique recent immigration policies, contemplating the economic repercussions of deportations on local economies. Additionally, the Kellys express their frustrations regarding taxation on tips, unemployment charges, and the overlooked contributions of micro-businesses under current fiscal policies. Their reflections highlight a shared skepticism but also encompass hope for vocational training and positive shifts in consumer spending in the coming year.


        Key Takeaways:
        • The potential impact of new tariffs on small businesses, especially in hospitality.
        • Concerns over immigration policies affecting local economies and labor markets.
        • Challenges posed by taxation changes on tips and unemployment-related financial responsibilities.
        • The disconnect between government policy impacts on micro vs. large businesses.
        • A hopeful outlook on increased vocational training to facilitate job growth in the U.S.


          • Notable Quotes:
          1. "A new group of people that think they're gonna change the world."
          2. "There is a reason things cost less in other places because it doesn't cost the same to make them in other places."
          3. "Sometimes I feel like I'm being hazed for a sorority that I did not ask to join."
          4. "2025 is going to be the year of deep breaths."


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            Chapters:

            0:00 Impact of Tariffs on Small Businesses

            4:17 Economic Impact of Immigration on Local Businesses

            7:29 Small Business Owners Discuss Taxes, Inflation

            11:29 Trump 2.0 Policy Speculations

            14:32 Vocational Training, Affirmations, and Micro Business Advocacy


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            19 min
          5. Why Hospitality Industry is Embracing Cannabis Infused Experiences

            Are you having a Dry January? Perhaps it's time to dry a new vice. In this episode of Getting Real with Bossy we spark up a conversation with Shelby Poole, founder of Betty Bloom, a mobile social club focused on empowering women to embrace the marijuana plant in lieu of alcohol. Shelby shares her journey from working in the restaurant industry to building a business that promotes education, destigmatization, and fun cannabis experiences.


            #CBDMonth #WomeninCannabis #DryJanuary


            🎯 Key Takeaways:


            The rise of non-alcoholic and cannabis-based alternatives reflects a growing "sober curious" movement.


            Shelby envisions a future where alcohol and cannabis coexist responsibly in social settings.


            Stigmatization of cannabis use, particularly among women, needs to shift toward inclusivity and education.


            Mismanagement of cannabis legalization in New York highlights issues around market control and public awareness.


            ✨ About the Guest: Shelby Poole


            Shelby Poole is a trailblazing entrepreneur in the cannabis industry. As the founder of Betty Bloom Social Club, Shelby uses her hospitality background to create socially-driven and educational cannabis experiences. Shelby is also the Director of Marketing at Happy Days Dispensary and serves on the board of the NYS Restaurant Association, advocating for sustainable practices at the intersection of food, beverage, and cannabis.


            📲 Follow Shelby:

            Instagram: @‌bettybloomsocialclub


            Chapters:

            00:00:00 – Introduction to Shelby Poole and her work in the cannabis industry

            00:03:29 – The concept of free-spirited cocktails

            00:06:05 – Shelby shares her journey and insights into destigmatizing cannabis

            00:08:11 – Historical stigma and the war on drugs

            00:20:58 – The intersection of alcohol and cannabis in hospitality

            00:27:49 – Launching Betty Bloom and empowering women through events

            00:32:22 – Plans for the Mainstream Mary event to challenge stereotypes

            00:41:00 – Addressing challenges in cannabis legalization and black market concerns

            00:58:34 – Shifting perceptions of cannabis as a medicinal alternative

            01:00:26 – Shelby’s future plans for Betty Bloom


            🎵 Music Credits: "Do It" by Infraction

            "Mellow Bop" by Prigida

            "You Are the Best" by Cutesy Chamber Ensemble


            🔗 Sponsors:

            🥑 Salena’s Mexican Restaurant (Title Sponsor)

            🍸 Marshall Street and Union Tavern


            🛠️ Produced By:

            JazzCast Pros


            This episode is packed with insights, personal stories, and actionable ideas for creating inclusive and educational cannabis experiences. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe!


            📺 Watch now and join the conversation! 🌿✨

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            1 hr 6 min
          6. 2024 Small Business Hits + Misses

            Ep. 51 Hey Bossys! We’re kicking off 2025 with a vulnerable and unfiltered recap of the rollercoaster that was 2024. From the financial chaos of an election year to the pressures of the holiday season, we’re laying it all out—no sugarcoating, just the real, messy truth of being small business owners.

            Kelly Bush shares how the unpredictable economy hit her businesses, Marshall Street and The Union Tavern, while Kelly Metras opens up about navigating huge financial risks of buying I-Square and the constant juggling act of work and family. We’re also diving into how AI is reshaping small businesses (spoiler alert: it’s here to stay!) and how we’re balancing efficiency with the all-important human touch.


            Our top three wins of 2024? We’re not bankrupt, we’re not divorced, and our kids are healthy—sometimes, that’s what success looks like. 💪


            If you’re ready for honest talk about the challenges, lessons, and little victories of the past year—and how we’re gearing up to crush it in 2025—this episode is for you. 💥


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            Tune in to this revealing episode of "Getting Real with Bossy" to explore the real stories behind small business success and the personal growth journeys of our hosts. Join us for more engaging and enlightening discussions throughout 2025!



            #GettingRealWithBossy #SmallBusinessLife #Entrepreneurship #WomenInBusiness #2024Recap #BusinessGrowth #AIInBusiness #WorkLifeBalance

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            32 min
          7. Dry January! How Non-Alcoholic Bar Owner Meg Hartman is Set to Thrive in 2025

            Ep. 50 Is it possible to run a successful bar without serving alcohol? Meg Hartman of Alt Bar thinks so, and she’s changing the game in Rochester, NY. Find out how Meg's innovative non-alcoholic bottle shop and bar is creating a welcoming space for everyone.

            Whether you’re a business owner, an advocate for inclusivity, or simply curious about the growing non-alcoholic space, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration.

            Meg takes us on her inspiring journey from starting as a pop-up shop to launching a full-fledged brick-and-mortar space that’s redefining the social drinking experience.

            We dive into:

            • The "why" behind AltBar: Meg’s personal and professional reasons for championing the non-alcoholic movement.
            • The evolution of AltBar: How Meg went from pop-ups to creating a vibrant community hub for NA enthusiasts.
            • The importance of the non-alcoholic movement: Why providing inclusive options is critical for changing the social narrative around alcohol.
            • Dealing with internet trolls: Meg’s strategies for staying focused on her mission and not feeding the critics.


              • Links and Resources:

              • www.altbarroc.com
              • Follow AltBar on https://www.instagram.com/altbarroc and https://www.facebook.com/altbarroc
              • Explore more about the non-alcoholic movement here.  https://nabeverages.org/
              • Explore Marshall Street Bar's Menu of Free-Spirited Options



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                58 min
              • Childcare Revolution: How Rosa Marie is Turning the System on Its Head

                Ep. 49 Ever felt like you were at your breaking point? That moment when everything feels like it’s falling apart—but then, the people you’ve touched rally around you in ways you never imagined?

                In this heartfelt and raw episode of Getting Real with Bossy, Rosa Marie, entrepreneur and childcare activist, returns to the podcast with a story of resilience, vulnerability, and triumph. Recently, Rosa sent out a public “cry for help” on social media as her business, Marvelous Mind Academy, faced a financial crisis. But instead of defeat, what followed was a powerful outpouring of community support that reinforced her mission to make childcare accessible to all.

                With over a decade of experience in child development, Rosa shares how her vision for non-traditional childcare solutions has evolved, especially during the most trying times. From navigating post-pandemic economic shifts to redefining what success looks like, Rosa’s journey is a testament to perseverance and the strength of community.

                What You’ll Hear:

                🎧 How Rosa’s transparency about her struggles ignited a wave of community support

                🎧 The innovative ways Marvelous Mind Academy is reshaping childcare with pop-up daycare services

                🎧 The personal growth that comes with leading a mission-driven business

                🎧 Insights into systemic challenges in childcare—and why change is long overdue


                ✨ This episode is a must-listen for anyone who believes in the power of showing up, speaking out, and rallying for a cause.

                Loved this episode? Check out Part One:

                Ep. 4 The Marvelous Mind of Rosa Marie: Creating Modern Childcare Solutions

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                Salena's Mexican Restaurant at Village Gate 302 N Goodman St, Rochester, NY 14607 

                Union Tavern 4565 Culver Rd, Rochester, NY 14622


                Resources:

                Call Marvelous Minds Academy 585-210-8554

                Email: [email protected]

                Website: www.marvelousminds.com

                Facebook:Marvelous Mind Academy

                Find these and more small businesses to shop in the Bossy Directory

                Connect with Kelly + Kelly www.BossyRoc.com @BossyRoc


                #ChildcareActivism #Entrepreneurship #CommunitySupport #MarvelousMindAcademy #GettingRealWithBossy

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                37 min
              • Small Business Saturday: Local Holiday Gift Ideas for Everyone on Your List

                Ep. 48 Explore the heart of Small Business Saturday with Kelly Metras and Kelly Bush as they spotlight Bossy ROC members and their exciting offers. Hear from Tanvi of Shop Peppermint, Lindsey of Laughing All Chocolates, Erika Sorbello of Gallery Salon, Raeanne Lacatera, holistic business coach, Jackie McGriff, photographer and co-producer, Jill Rizzo Budd from Awaken Wellness and Beauty, Kathy from Joe Bean Coffee, and Nicole from Screen Printing by Bowers.

                If you're looking to support local, women-owned businesses and want to give unique gifts this Holiday Season, this episode is your go-to resource.

                Key Takeaways:
                • Shopping locally on Small Business Saturday significantly impacts the local economy by fostering community growth and stability.
                • Female entrepreneurs are leading the way in diverse industries, from fashion boutiques to holistic wellness and creative markets, all offering unique products and experiences.
                • The strength of the Bossy network lies in its supportive community of women empowering one another through collaboration, advocacy, and shared stories.
                • Many of the businesses featured prioritize sustainable and ethically sourced products, aligning with broader trends toward conscious consumerism.
                • By participating in Small Business Saturday, consumers directly contribute to sustaining vibrant local businesses and can enjoy exclusive promotions.

                  • Notable Quotes:
                  1. Kelly Metras: "Every dollar spent at a local business, $0.67 stays in the local economy—that is over double the impact compared to shopping at big box stores."
                  2. Kelly Bush: "Shopping small for the holidays doesn't save the whole year, but it makes a big dent."
                  3. Tanvi: "Shopping small just has its own joys."
                  4. Lindsay Tarnoff: "We do good while we enjoy the best chocolate."
                  5. Erica Sorbello: "We have great gifts under $30—a one-stop shop for self-care.


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                    Union Tavern 4565 Culver Rd, Rochester, NY 14622


                    Resources:

                    Find these and more small businesses to shop in the Bossy Directory

                    Connect with Kelly + Kelly www.BossyRoc.com @BossyRoc


                    #BlackFriday #Sale #ShopSmall #EntrepreneurshipWeek #WomenOwned #SmallBusiness #ShopLocal

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                    43 min
                  6. Native Made: Elevating Indigenous Voices in Business with Angelina Hilton

                    Ep. 47 What does it truly mean to honor Native American heritage? In this eye-opening episode of Getting Real with Bossy, hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras catch up with Angelina Hilton, founder of Native Made and a passionate advocate for Indigenous representation. A proud member of the Sac and Fox Nation, Angelina is on a mission to amplify Indigenous voices in business, art, and beyond. Her story, rooted in cultural pride and entrepreneurial spirit, reveals the impact of visibility and the importance of spaces where Indigenous narratives can thrive.

                    "I recognized that there was a significant need for representation and services for Indigenous entrepreneurs."

                    Just in time for Native American Heritage Day, Angelina shares how initiatives like the Native Made Market and the "On Native Land" exhibit in Rochester foster allyship, cultural education, and community empowerment. She discusses the challenges of balancing traditional values with contemporary business and invites us all to think deeper about authentic representation and respect. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to broaden their understanding of Indigenous resilience and discover meaningful ways to engage.

                    Resources:

                    Episode 9 Wonder Woman + Her Husband: The Story of Angelina Hilton (2022)

                    Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan, the highest-ranking Indigenous woman serving in a statewide elected office (Minnestoa) and the first to lead the Democratic Lieutenant Governors Association.

                    Contact Native Made: [email protected]

                    • Instagram: Mrs. Angelina Hilton
                    • Native Made Market November 30th, 11:00 AM–5:00 PM 60 Browns Race, Rochester, NY
                    • 2024 "On Native Land" Art Exhibit November 4 to December 13 at the Link Gallery, Rochester City Hall


                      About the Guest:

                      Angelina Hilton, an enrolled member of the Sac and Fox Nation of Missouri in Kansas and Nebraska, is the founder of Native Made, an organization dedicated to increasing Indigenous visibility. Angelina is actively involved in various community-focused efforts, including the Indigenous Peoples Day Committee in Rochester, NY, the Indigenous Health Coalition, and Target's Native American and Indigenous Business Council. She also volunteers with the White Corn Project, working towards cultural preservation and food sovereignty. Her passions include advocacy, entrepreneurship, and building community connections. Angelina enjoys photography, writing, travel, spending time in nature, and learning with her family.


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                      Connect with Kelly + Kelly www.BossyRoc.com @BossyRoc


                      Chapters:

                      0:00 Introduction with Kelly + Kelly

                      5:48 From PopRoc to Native Made Markets

                      10:41 Increasing Indigenous Visibility and Inclusivity in Retail Spaces

                      13:01 Technology and Education

                      16:28 Curating Native American Art Takes Time and Consideration

                      17:23 Personal Growth, Resilience, and Authenticity in Challenging Times

                      20:02 Celebrating Indigenous Voices Through an Immersive Art Exhibit

                      23:40 Community Events and Growth

                      27:18 Vision for Native Made Market

                      28:23 Conclusion

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                      34 min
                    • Tapping into Community with Nine Spot Brewing + Geva Theatre: Marina Nothnagle's Story of Resilience

                      Ep. 46 In honor of #AmerianBeerDay we are celebrating a woman who saw a need to blend the flavors of Buffalo and Rochester, NY and crafted a community that continues to spart innovation.

                      Marina Nothnagle’s story is one of passion, challenge, and resilience. Over the years, her relentless dedication has turned Nine Spot Brewing into a hub for beer enthusiasts while fostering a sense of community and collaboration among local businesses. This episode provides valuable insights into the importance of building a supportive network and adapting to changes in the industry.

                      Marina discusses her partnership with Geva Theater, highlighting the uniqueness of such collaborations, and reiterating the need for continual growth and community engagement. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical lessons on resilience and adaptation in business.


                      In this episode, you will be able to:

                      • Discover the insider tips for starting a successful craft brewery in Rochester.
                      • Unlock the secrets to successful collaborations between breweries and local businesses.
                      • Overcome the unique challenges of running a brewery during a pandemic.
                      • Explore the exciting transition from a taproom to a theater venue and the opportunities it brings.
                      • Learn about the crucial role of community support for the success of small breweries.


                        • About the Guest:

                        Marina Nothnagle, the co-founder and visionary behind Nine Spot Brewing, is a dynamic force in the craft brewery industry. Her commitment to sustainability, community, and crafting delicious beers embodies the spirit of upstate New York. As the president of the Monroe Avenue Merchants Association, Marina is dedicated to supporting and enhancing the local business community.

                        Resources:
                        • Nine Spot Brewing: Instagram
                        • Monroe Avenue Merchants Association: Learn more about their initiatives and community-driven projects.
                        • Geva Theater: Experience craft beers and the arts by visiting their website.
                        • References to local businesses like Strange Bird and Rock Brewing, highlighting their collaborative spirit and influence.
                        • Contact Marina at [email protected]


                          • Discover the full story of resilience and creativity by tuning into this episode and stay up-to-date with future conversations from "Getting Real with Bossy" for more inspiring entrepreneurial insights.

                          In Honor of: American Beer Day , Women in Beer, Workplace Politics Awareness Month , Women's Small Business Month, Speak Up for Service Day


                          Chapters:

                          0:00 Introduction Rochester's Craft Beer Scene

                          2:54 The Journey of Starting Nine Spot Brewing

                          6:49 From Restaurant Woes to Craft Beer Dreams Amidst Adversity

                          10:04 Creative Collaborations Boost Brewery's Market Presence

                          12:53 Struggles and Community Support in the Brewing Industry

                          17:44 Rochester's Brewing Heritage and Unique Brewery Experiences

                          19:34 Brewing Creativity: A Theater and Brewery Partnership in Rochester

                          26:29 Intimate Theater Experiences and Pre-Show Dining Options

                          28:39 Building Community Bridges Through Business and Personal Resilience

                          31:00 Creating Community Through New York's Regional Cuisines and Culture

                          33:45 Crafting Unique Beers and Expanding Nine Spot Brewing's Reach

                          36:08 The Power of Community and Resilience in Business

                          39:00 Kelly's recap

                          41:00 Bossy Co-working 

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                          44 min

                        About Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business

                        From the publisher's feed

                        The Real Raw and Honest podcast about small business ownership hosted by Kelly Bush + Kelly Metras, co-owners of BOSSY ROC, a support group for business owners. With our experience, nine businesses in over 25 years, we continue to bear it all and share what we wish we had known. We move past the must-be-nices and start getting real. Come along as we interview other business owners and get the true story.