My friend Casey Neill joined us to talk about this benefit we’re doing on April 9, 16, 23, and 30, called Abolition 2021 in support of a free hospitality house for family and lawyers of incarcerated people at Louisiana State Penitentiary. The house will be run by Abolition Apostles, a national jail and prison ministry. Casey Neill is an activist and a musician I have long admired as someone who uses their work to serve, educate and inspire. We talked about the Abolition benefit, and as a nod to the spectral roots of this podcast, Casey shared a dream of his that seemed to be a premonition. To purchase tickets for Abolition 2021, please visit: