In this episode of Need to Know, Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel discuss the latest developments in the UAP conversation, particularly the lack of action from the new U.S. administration despite previous campaign promises. They highlight the role of key figures like John Ratcliffe, the new CIA director, and Marco Rubio, the new Secretary of State, both of whom have previously acknowledged the reality of unexplained aerial phenomena. The conversation also delves into Elon Musk’s recent claims that he would know about secret UAP programs if they existed—claims that Ross and Bryce find naive, given the compartmentalized nature of classified government projects.

The episode also explores the broader implications of disclosure, touching on government secrecy, potential geopolitical ramifications, and the upcoming documentary The Age of Disclosure, which promises to feature high-level insiders speaking out about UAPs. Additionally, the hosts discuss Richard Dolan’s new book on USOs (Unidentified Submerged Objects) and the historical significance of cases like Kecksburg and the Betty and Barney Hill abduction. The ongoing mystery of military drone incursions and their potential ties to UAP phenomena is another major talking point, with Ross expressing frustration over media and government responses. They close by considering the possibility that foreign powers like Russia or China might take the lead on disclosure, potentially forcing the U.S. to respond.

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