Give Them An Argument

[Many apologies for the earlier release with the wrong file!]

Two years ago, Ben Burgis, Matt McManus, Marion Trejo-McManus and Conrad Hamilton co-wrote a book called "Myth and Mayhem: A Leftist Critique of Jordan Peterson." Last year there was a GTAA episode about it. Now that our boy's active again, getting back out into the world and dropping bombs like "climate is just everything so how can we have a scientific model to predict climate change," seems like a good time to check back in on him. All the authors of "Myth and Mayhem" return to check back in on our boy JBP as the main event of this episode.

Before that, Ben and the GTAA crew talk a bit about Biden's State of the Union address and calls from various quarters for the United States to turn the war in Ukraine into World War III by setting up a no fly-zone and recap the parts of Ben's recent conversation with Joe Rogan where Ben argued against anti-CRT laws (and against attempts like the one right now in Texas to ban trans kids from going on puberty blockers) and where Ben & Joe talked about whether a Battle of the Bens could be arranged where Ben Burgis and Ben Shapiro would debate their many political disagreements. In the last part of the main show, Ben and his wife Dr. Jennifer Burgis take a look at Jordan Peterson's attempt to navigate the issue of free will & determinism. Finally in the postgame for patrons, Current Affairs editor Nathan J. Robinson joins Ben and the GTAA crew to review some of the many many tweets by World War III enthusiasts who think anyone who doesn't want the United States to intervene in Ukraine is an "appeaser."

Guys, this is a great episode.

Become a GTAA patron so you can get al those sweet sweet patron-exclusive postgames:

patreon.com/benburgis

Order "Myth and Mayhem: A Leftist Critique of Jordan Peterson" from worker-owned Red Emmas:

https://redemmas.org/titles/34806-myth-and-mayhem-a-leftist-critique-of-jordan-peterson

Watch the complete conversation between Ben Burgis and Joe Rogan:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0UmjhCbyz0oG6bWUKlnNeF

Two years ago, Ben Burgis, Matt McManus, Marion Trejo-McManus and Conrad Hamilton co-wrote a book called "Myth and Mayhem: A Leftist Critique of Jordan Peterson." Last year there was a GTAA episode about it. Now that our boy's active again, getting back out into the world and dropping bombs like "climate is just everything so how can we have a scientific model to predict climate change," seems like a good time to check back in on him. All the authors of "Myth and Mayhem" return to check back in on our boy JBP as the main event of this episode.

Before that, Ben and the GTAA crew talk a bit about Biden's State of the Union address and calls from various quarters for the United States to turn the war in Ukraine into World War III by setting up a no fly-zone and recap the parts of Ben's recent conversation with Joe Rogan where Ben argued against anti-CRT laws (and against attempts like the one right now in Texas to ban trans kids from going on puberty blockers) and where Ben & Joe talked about whether a Battle of the Bens could be arranged where Ben Burgis and Ben Shapiro would debate their many political disagreements. In the last part of the main show, Ben and his wife Dr. Jennifer Burgis take a look at Jordan Peterson's attempt to navigate the issue of free will & determinism. Finally in the postgame for patrons, Current Affairs editor Nathan J. Robinson joins Ben and the GTAA crew to review some of the many many tweets by World War III enthusiasts who think anyone who doesn't want the United States to intervene in Ukraine is an "appeaser."

Guys, this is a great episode.

Become a GTAA patron so you can get al those sweet sweet patron-exclusive postgames:

patreon.com/benburgis

Order "Myth and Mayhem: A Leftist Critique of Jordan Peterson" from worker-owned Red Emmas:

https://redemmas.org/titles/34806-myth-and-mayhem-a-leftist-critique-of-jordan-peterson

Watch the complete conversation between Ben Burgis and Joe Rogan:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0UmjhCbyz0oG6bWUKlnNeF

Ben Burgis was on the Joe Rogan Experience last week so a good chunk of this is devoted to going over some clips from that but the main event tonight is a crossover w/the Valley Labor Report podcast to debunk the terrible arguments in employer-sponsored anti-union propaganda. This was a fun one.

Watch the full appearance:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0UmjhCbyz0oG6bWUKlnNeF

Order the book Ben was talking about on JRE from worker-owned Red Emmas bookstore:

https://redemmas.org/titles/34877-canceling-comedians-while-the-world-burns-a-critique-of-the-contemporary-left

...and his new book on Christopher Hitchens:

https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-matters

Listen to the Valley Labor Report:

https://thevalleylaborreport.org/

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Fan-favorite returning guest Lillian Cicerchia (co-host of "What's Left of Philosophy?") comes back to talk to Ben Burgis about Marxist accounts of exploitation--how the concept relates to a useful description of capitalist economies and why it's important to the case for socialism. Producer Jake, whose day job is "union organizer," talks abut the gathering wave of Starbucks unionizations around the country. Professor Jennifer Burgis joins Ben for a philosophy segment on Robert Nozick's theory of property rights. Ryan joins us for the postgame GTAA patrons to talk Mario, turtles, philosophy, and why Biden doesn't just cancel student loans.

Order Ben's new book from worker-owned Red Emmas:

https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-matters

Listen to the Callin show (now available on androids and iPhones to call in and browsers for listen-only):

https://www.callin.com/show/give-me-an-argument-the-ben-burgis-call-in-show-SxHBwTxAPC

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Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew talk about all the big dumb controversies of the week (Rogan, Whoopi) and try to extract from them at least a couple of things that actually matter. Noami Karavani, a comedian and correspondent for "Redacted Tonight," joins Ben to debunk some Prager U videos. Dr. Jenn comes on for a philosophy segment and the one and only Conan Neutron is on deck t hang out in the postgame for patrons. Good stuff all around.

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Order Ben's new book ("Christopher Hitchens: What He Got Right, How He Went Wrong, and Why He Still Matters") from worker-owned Red Emmas:

https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-matters

Listen to the Callin show:

https://www.callin.com/show/give-me-an-argument-the-ben-burgis-call-in-show-SxHBwTxAPC

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Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).

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Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew talk about Hitchens and lesser figures who "left the left." Slovenian anti-capitalist philosopher Slavoj Zizek returns to the show to talk about subjects ranging from communism to AOC's boyfriend's feet. There's a preview of the last patron episode w/Conrad Hamilton, Professor Jennifer Burgis comes on for a philosophy segment, and Ethan Hershenfeld comes on to hangout and watch clips of William Lane Craig and Ben Shapiro in the postgame for patrons. This is a very good episode.

Order Ben's new book! For much of the last couple weeks it's been the #1 New Release in Atheism (and #3 in History and Theory of Politics) on Amazon, which was nice to see, but instead of there order it from worker-owned Red Emmas bookstore:

https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-matters

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Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).

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Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew talk about the Democrats rapturous embrace of Dick Cheney. The main guest is Scott Horton, talks about the hlighlights of his recent debate with neocon all-star Bill Kristol. After a quick preview of the patron-exclusive episode from the weekend w/Matt McManus ("Season 3 Episode 26: To Beat the Right We Have to Understand Their Arguments"), Professor Jennifer Burgis returns for another attempt to sort of Sam Harris's deep confusion about meta-ethics.

Order Ben's book "Christopher Hitchens: What He Got Right, How He Went Wrong, and Why He Still Matters" (out now!) from worker-owned Red Emmas:

https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-chr...

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Ben Burgis wrote a book about Christopher Hitchens--it came out on Saturday! You can snag a copy from worker-owned Red Emmas at this link:

https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-matters

Ben and Djene Bajalan watch and discuss some clips of Christopher, and we unlock Ben's previously patron-exclusive interview with Christopher's thoughtful and entertaining but also terrifyingly ultra-conservative brother Peter Hitchens--who takes the opportunity to say that Margaret Thatcher wasn't "really" a conservative. (Note: The interview was a crossover with The Popular Show.) After that, Ben's wife Professor Jennifer Burgis joins him to talk about Sam Harris's recent thoughts on the is/ought gap in the philosophy section. Finally, our prodigal producer Cale returns to GTAA to hang out in the postgame. It's a good time.

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Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew watch Tucker Carlson and a guest talk about how the military should be full of people who want to sit on a "throne of Chinese skulls." Repeat GTAA guest Paul Prescod talks about his campaign for PA State Senate. Emma Vigeland joins Ben Burgis to break down the antics of Jordan Peterson, Josh Hawley, and Ben Shapiro. Professor Jennifer Burgis comes on for a philosophy segment at the end of the main show and we learn that in addition to having terrible political views Shapiro is pretty clueless about Kant. Anders Lee comes on to hang out in the postgame.

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Paul's State Senate campaign website:

https://www.paulprescod.com/

Preorder Ben's new book (officially out on New Years):

https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-matters

Take the class Ben and Thaddeus Russell are co-teaching on Marx at Renegade University:

https://renegadeuniversity.com/product/marx/

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Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew watch Christopher Hitchens vs. Sean Hannity on the legacy of Jerry Falwell and then transition to a quick debunk of Prager U's "Healthcare is Not a Right" video. For the main event, Very Bad Wizards co-host David Pizarro and philosophy professor Ryan Lake join Ben to talk about some intersections between socialist political philosophy and the issue of free will and determinism, jumping off from G.A. Cohen's book "Why Not Socialism?" Finally, Professor Jennifer Burgis comes on to talk about Galen Strawson's argument against free will before Ben heads off to hang out with Djene Bajalan in the postgame for GTAA patrons.

Link for the first episode of the new Callin show (you'll have to download the app on an iPhone, sadly):

https://www.callin.com/room/episode-1-ama-QXpYTwbClF

Link to the class on Marx with Thaddeus Russell at Renegade University:

https://renegadeuniversity.com/product/marx/

Watch the full version of Hannah Hoffman Music's Charlie Kirk Euthyphro song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMWZKcV-APU

Follow David Pizarro on Twitter: @peez

Follow Ryan Lake on Twitter: @chaospet

Listen to David on Very Bad Wizards: verybadwizards.com

Preorder Ben's new book, "Christopher Hitchens: What He Got Right, How He Went Wrong, and Why He still Matters":

https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-matters

Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! 
Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).

Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgis
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