In this episode, Dr. John and Mark discuss grace, the law, and holiness. Sometimes people think that if we teach too much grace then people will think they can do whatever they want! However, those who understand their true identity, will not "abuse" grace. These terms are defined and the purpose of each is explained. John and Mark discuss questions like, "If I live under grace, then can I do what I want?" "What is the purpose of the law and should we mix law in with grace?" John and Mark also state that grace cannot be lived apart from holiness. Many of us desire grace but we are not generous with giving grace to others. We teach the theology of grace but do we practically live in grace and holiness? During the conversation, Dr. John defines the difference between punishment and discipline. Mark mentions two books. The first is "Stunned by Grace," written by Frank Friedmann. The second is "Understanding Grace," written by Dr. Lee Turner and this book can be purchased in our online store. Dr. John mentions the book, "Lifetime Guarantee," written by Bill Gilliam. Finally, Dr. John and Mark discuss whether "Exchanged Life" is only a positional truth.