Listen to a very first episode of new podcast series made by Prague Quadrennial of Performance Design and Space. Marketa Fantová, the artistic director of PQ, is talking with designer Sven Jonke, who is part of Numen, the collective working in the fields of conceptual art, scenography, industrial and spatial design. What are possible forms of collaboration in creative teams working on such a tricky thing like the theatre is? How can horizontal (non)hierarchies work, and why is it useful to share resources as well as outputs?