Chris Robinson hosts the The Hard Ball Gets - Good Chat, sitting down with a special guest every week as well as weighing up some over/unders and previewing the weekend.

Fremantle's inaugural captain, former caretaker coach AND board member Ben Allan joins the podcast this week to walk through his unique footy career. The former Hawthorn best and fairest winner in their 1991 premiership side discusses life after footy, the decision to return to WA and so much more. A great insight into early days at Freo and an intriguing listen for any Dockers/footy diehard.

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