Goodbye Guilt & Shame

Throughout this series, Jess Layne and Autumn Smith have invited pastors, ministry leaders, parents, and everyday believers into an honest conversation about abortion, healing, and the culture we create within our churches. In this final episode, they reflect on the biggest lessons from the series, revisit the voices that shaped the conversation, and reveal the complete "Church Culture Recipe"—practical steps every church can begin taking today.

Whether you've listened from Episode One or you're joining us for the first time, this finale offers encouragement, practical direction, and hope for churches desiring to become places where truth and compassion work together.

Throughout this series we've shared one ingredient at a time. Here is the complete recipe:

• Teach healthy, life-giving language.
• Create safe spaces for honest conversations.
• Publicly acknowledge that healing after abortion is available.
• Build practical support systems for families.
• Partner with trusted local ministries and resources.
• Remember fathers need healing too.
• Support the entire family—not just the individual.
• Equip pastors, leaders, and volunteers to respond well.
• Build strong community partnerships.
• Celebrate life through practical acts of love and support.
• Make help visible and easy to access before a crisis ever happens.

Church culture isn't built overnight.

It's built one conversation…

one meal…

one support group…

one safe response at a time.

Helping churches become places where healing, restoration, discipleship, and practical support are available for those navigating grief, trauma, abortion recovery, miscarriage, addiction, and life challenges.

Programs include:

• She's Restored (Post-Abortion Healing)
• Keys to Hope & Healing
• Unraveled Roots (Men & Women)
• In His Arms (Pregnancy & Infant Loss)
• Strong Moms

Church partnership opportunities include:

• Speaking engagements
• Leadership training
• Church culture consulting
• Facilitator training
• Healing group implementation

If this series has encouraged or equipped you, consider sharing it with:

• Your pastor
• Church leadership
• Women's ministry leaders
• Small group leaders
• Prayer teams
• Anyone passionate about creating churches where truth and compassion meet

Together, we can build churches where no one has to whisper one of the hardest chapters of their story.

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No More Whispering: Abortion and Church Culture is a special mini-series from Goodbye Guilt & Shame exploring how churches can move beyond silence and become places of truth, compassion, healing, and hope for those impacted by abortion, unexpected pregnancy, and reproductive loss.

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• Website: Restored Nation
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"Church culture isn't just what we believe. It's what people experience when they need us most."

What does it actually look like when a church moves beyond simply being "pro-life" and intentionally creates a culture where women, families, and children are supported, valued, and loved?

In this episode, Jess Layne and Autumn Smith sit down with Pastor Rich Blum and Women's Ministry Director Pam Plotner from Bethel Community Church, a church that has spent years cultivating a culture of life through practical ministry, discipleship, and community support.

Pastor Rich shares the deeply personal story that first drew him into pro-life ministry and explains why church leaders cannot afford to remain silent on issues of life, abortion, healing, and restoration. He discusses how leadership shapes church culture and why churches must become places where people feel safe enough to ask for help before a crisis decision is made.

Later, Pam shares the story behind bringing the national ministry Embrace Grace to Bethel Community Church. She explains how the ministry walks alongside women experiencing unexpected pregnancies through practical care, biblical community, discipleship, and ongoing support long after a baby is born.

Together, these conversations offer a powerful picture of what happens when churches intentionally choose compassion, courage, and action.

• Restored Nation
• Embrace Grace
• Pathways Women's Clinic
• Bethel Community Church
• Care Net & LifeWay Research on Church Culture and Abortion

In this episode of Goodbye Guilt and Shame, hosts Jess Layne and Autumn Smith welcome special guest Ashley Vanderpool, Registered Nurse with Infinite Worth and former co-host of the podcast.

Throughout this mini-series, we've talked about abortion and church culture from many angles—sanctity of life, the gray space surrounding abortion decisions, the influence of fathers and families, and the role churches play in creating safe places for difficult conversations.

Today, we move even closer to the front lines.

Ashley serves as a nurse with Infinite Worth, a 24/7 nurse chat ministry that partners with hundreds of pregnancy resource centers across the country. Through text-based conversations, Ashley and her fellow nurses connect with women and families in moments of fear, uncertainty, and crisis—often before they have spoken to anyone else about their pregnancy.

In this conversation, Ashley provides a rare glimpse into what women are actually experiencing in real time. She shares what she hears every day from women facing unexpected pregnancies, the fears that drive many abortion decisions, the questions people are asking, and what churches need to understand if they truly want to create cultures where people feel safe seeking help.

One of the most powerful statements Ashley shares is that her goal is helping women move from fear, to knowledge, to hope.

Whether you are a pastor, ministry leader, volunteer, parent, or simply someone who wants to love people well, this episode offers valuable insight into the reality many women face long before anyone else knows their story.

"They're not waking up saying, 'I think I'll have an abortion today.' They're scared, often uneducated, and they need to be loved, given good information, and provided a safe place to process what they're facing." — Ashley Vanderpool

• 3 in 10 women who have had an abortion report having experienced more than one abortion.
• Approximately 51% of women agree that churches do not have a ministry prepared to discuss options during an unexpected pregnancy.
• About 52% of churchgoers who have had an abortion report that no one at church knows about their abortion experience.
• 4 in 10 women report that the father of the baby was the most influential person in their pregnancy decision.

Source: Care Net and Lifeway Research

Infinite Worth provides a 24/7 nurse chat ministry that connects women facing unexpected pregnancies with licensed nurses who offer compassionate support, education, referrals, and pregnancy resource center connections. Their mission is to reach women in the moment they need help most and connect them with life-affirming care and local support. They currently partner with hundreds of pregnancy centers across the United States and provide around-the-clock nurse support through text-based communication.

Learn more:

https://www.infiniteworth.org

If abortion is part of your story, please know that you are not disqualified from belonging.

There is hope.

There is healing.

And you do not have to walk alone.

For information about post-abortion healing and support:

RestoredNation.org

Goodbye Guilt and Shame

Season 2 | Mini Series 2 | Episode 5

No More Whispering: Abortion and Church Culture — The Recipe for Restoration

Hosts: Jess Layne & Autumn Smith

In this final episode of No More Whispering, Jess and Autumn bring together the conversations from the entire series and ask an important question: What does a healthy, life-giving church culture actually look like?

This conversation moves beyond ideas and into action—exploring the ingredients that create safe spaces where people feel seen, supported, and valued. Jess and Autumn discuss practical ways churches can show up for individuals and families navigating unexpected pregnancy, abortion recovery, miscarriage, grief, and single parenting.

This episode also highlights trusted organizations and resources available for healing and support because no one should have to walk through these experiences alone.

Abortion Recovery & Healing

Support After Abortion

Connects women and men impacted by abortion with healing resources and support groups. Offers both faith-based and secular options.

Deeper Still

Free confidential healing retreats for women and men impacted by abortion. Jess and Dan personally shared their experience attending one of these retreats.

An Even Place

Online faith-based support groups designed to help women process grief, shame, and healing after abortion.

Pregnancy Loss & Grief Support

Restored Nation — In His Arms

Private healing sessions for individuals and couples processing:

• Miscarriage
• Infant loss
• Pregnancy grief

I Am Seen

Provides care boxes and grief resources for families experiencing miscarriage and infant loss.

Single Parent Support

Restored Nation — Strong Moms

A support community for single mothers designed to provide:

• Community
• Encouragement
• Prayer
• Practical support
• Resources for daily life

Books & Additional Resources

Unmasked — by Jim Anderson

Topics include:

• God's design for sexuality
• Relationships
• Masculinity and femininity
• Healing and restoration
• Creating healthy church culture

Sexuality Unmasked

Additional recommended book:

The Heart of a Woman

Questions? Need support? Want help finding resources in your area?

Email: [email protected]

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"A culture of life is more than a belief. It's the way we show up for people."

Until next time, we're Jess Layne and Autumn Smith reminding you that today can and will be better than yesterday.

In this deeply personal episode of Goodbye Guilt and Shame, hosts Jess Layne and Autumn Smith expand the conversation around abortion and church culture by exploring a perspective that is rarely discussed — the experience of men and fathers impacted by abortion.

Joined by special guest Daniel Layne, Jess’s husband, this conversation dives into the realities of silence, trauma, guilt, healing, and faith from a male perspective. Dan vulnerably shares how abortion affected him as a teenage father, the cultural messages that shaped his understanding at the time, and how healing came years later through faith, community, and honest conversations.

Together, Jess, Autumn, and Dan discuss:

• How abortion impacts more than one person
• The silence many men carry for decades
• The role church culture plays in healing or hiding pain
• Trauma, shame, and delayed healing
• Why fathers often feel excluded from the conversation
• The importance of education, identity, and discipleship for young men
• How churches can create safer spaces for healing and restoration

This episode is honest, emotional, and full of hope for anyone carrying hidden grief connected to abortion. Healing is possible — even years later.

• Restored Nation
• Unraveled Roots Support Groups
• Healing a Father’s Heart (Now called Reclaiming Fatherhood, by Care-net)
• Keys to Hope and Healing

Do you have a question for Jess or Autumn: [email protected]

If this episode impacted you, share it with someone who may need to hear that they are not alone.

Follow and subscribe to Goodbye Guilt and Shame for more conversations breaking silence around abortion, healing, faith, and restoration.

In this powerful fourth episode of our No More Whispering: Abortion and Church Culture mini-series, Jess and Autumn sit down with Pastor Dr. Bryan “Dav” Davenport to talk about something that quietly shapes church culture more than we realize—the pulpit.

What is said (and not said) from the pulpit deeply impacts how people experience belonging, forgiveness, and healing—especially around topics like abortion.

Together, we explore:

• Why abortion has historically gone unspoken in many churches
• How silence can unintentionally reinforce shame
• The tension between honoring privacy and addressing truth
• What it looks like to speak about abortion pastorally, not just positionally
• How Jesus modeled both truth and compassion in moments of deep shame

Dr. Dav brings decades of pastoral insight and offers a perspective that is both grounded in Scripture and deeply compassionate. This conversation is honest, thoughtful, and necessary.

“What is kept in secret is kept in shame.” Dr. Dav

In this mini series, we explore where abortion shows up in the Church and where it doesn’t. Are pastors talking about it? Are leaders equipped? How is the sanctity of life communicated without shame or condemnation? We’re not here to argue. We’re here to ask how.

How do we create churches where women, men, teenagers, single parents, grandparents, and families feel safe enough to say the word “abortion”?

How do we become a culture that shows up before, during, and after crisis? Because she’s not “out there.” She’s sitting in the pew.

Goodbye Guilt and Shame Podcast

Season 2, Mini Series 2: No More Whispering – Abortion & Church Culture

Speakers: Jess Layne & Autumn Smith

In this episode, Jess and Autumn step into what they call “the grey space”—the complicated, often painful realities surrounding abortion decisions. While truth remains clear, the circumstances people face rarely are.

This conversation explores the real-life pressures that shape these decisions—fear, financial instability, relationship dynamics, shame, and isolation—and asks an important question:

How can the Church respond with both truth and compassion when people are navigating deeply complex situations?

Rather than simplifying the issue, this episode invites listeners to better understand the human stories behind it—and to help create a church culture where people feel safe enough to bring those stories into the light.

1. What is “The Grey Space”?

1. Not moral confusion—but human complexity
2. Real-life pressures that influence decisions
3. The gap between theology and lived experience

2. The Reality Behind the Decision

1. Fear, time pressure, and urgency
2. Financial and relational instability
3. Influence from others and cultural messaging
4. Feeling like there are no other options

3. Why This Matters for the Church

1. Many people don’t feel safe bringing these struggles forward
2. Conversations can feel disconnected from real life
3. Silence and simplification can lead to isolation

4. A Better Way Forward

1. Listening with humility and curiosity
2. Holding truth and compassion together
3. Creating spaces where people are seen, not judged

Jess and Autumn reference research from Care Net and Lifeway showing:

1. 34% of women expected or experienced judgment from the church
2. 27% expected a concerned or negative reaction

This highlights a critical reality:

Many women don’t expect the Church to be a safe place in their moment of crisis.

Practical ways to begin shifting culture

Ingredient #1: Healthy Language

1. Avoid assumptions or condemning statements
2. Lead with curiosity, compassion, and humility
3. Words shape whether people feel safe—or silent

Ingredient #2: Normalize Honest Conversations

1. Talk about real-life struggles openly
2. Create spaces for questions, not just answers
3. Let people know they’re not alone

If this conversation resonates with you or someone you love, there is help available.

👉 Visit Restored Nation:

🌐 https://www.restorednation.org

Unraveled Roots

A powerful, closed-group experience for deeper healing and honest conversation.

1. Safe, committed environment
2. Designed for both men and women
3. Interest form available on the website

Abortion decisions often happen in moments of pressure, fear, and pain.

If the Church wants to truly walk with people, it must be willing to understand those moments—not avoid them.

We’re not here to whisper anymore.

We’re here to build a church culture where truth and compassion exist together—and where no one has to carry their story alone.

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If abortion is part of your story:

You are not disqualified from belonging.

We’re beginning a brand new mini-series: No More Whispering: Abortion and Church Culture.

In this opening episode, Jess and Autumn set the foundation for a conversation the Church can no longer avoid.

This isn’t political. It’s pastoral.

If abortion has been reduced to silence, stigma, or a single Sunday message, we believe it’s time for something better. Because abortion isn’t just an issue—it’s part of real people’s stories. And many of those people are sitting in our churches every week.

Together, we explore:

• What “sanctity of life” really means (beyond a phrase)
• Why silence in the Church is more harmful than we think
• What it looks like to create a culture where people feel safe to be honest
• And how we begin building churches marked by both truth and compassion

If abortion is part of your story—you are not alone, and you are not beyond healing.

restorednation.org has resources to help you or can find some in your area.

These are tangible ways churches can begin shifting culture:

• Celebrate Pregnancy Publicly

• Example: Baby shower tables for every pregnant woman
• Removes shame and replaces it with support

• Partner with Pregnancy Resource Centers

• Know your local resources
• Actively support and engage with them

• Name Abortion + Offer Healing Pathways

• Put resources on your website
• Normalize that healing is available
• You don’t have to run the program—just make access clear

• Share this episode with a friend or small group
• Start a conversation in your church
• Follow the podcast so you don’t miss the next episode
• Leave a review to help more people find this conversation

In this special wrap-up episode of our Unmasking the Myths Inside Pregnancy Resource Centers mini-series, we sit down together for a heartfelt and honest conversation reflecting on what we’ve learned, what surprised us, and what truths have emerged through this series.

We revisit some of the most common myths surrounding pregnancy resource centers (PRCs), compare statistics and real impact, and share personal insights into why this truth-telling matters so deeply. Together, we remind listeners that every life has value, every woman deserves support, and every family deserves hope.

This final episode isn’t just a summary—it’s an invitation to curiosity, compassion, and truth.

0:00-2:17 | Intro – Why did we did this mini-series 

2:18-4:48 | What stood out most in these interviews 

4:49-7:32 | Similarities across the board 

7:33-11:23 | Unique differences between the centers 

11:24-13:15 | Surprising Discoveries 

13:16-14:24 | Sponsorship Break 

Addressing the Myth’s Head-On

14:25-17:42 | Myth #1 “PRC’s manipulate or coerce women.” 

16:24-17:10 When a cost is attached, sales is present 

17:43-22:31 | Myth #2 “PRC’s aren’t medical and give fake information.” 

22:32-24:35 | Myth #3 “PRC’s only care about the baby, not the mother.” 

24:36-27:15 | Myth #4 “PRC’s only help Christians.” 

27:16-30:02 | Myth #5 “ Abortion’s are quick and easy, PRC’s just get in the way 

27:28-28:21 A piece of Jess’ story 

Statistics on PRC’s and Abortion Clinics 

30:03-35:47 | PRC vs. Abortion clinic stats – Did you know? 

35:48-37:25 | Personal Reflections: Why Co-host this mini-series?

37:26-39:09 | Connecting PRC Truth to our own stories 

39:10-41:54 | Hope for our listeners 

41:55-42:37 | Invitation for our Listeners

We’d love to hear from you!

💌 Email us your thoughts or questions at [email protected]

42:38-44:32 | Final Outro

💗 Connect & Support

Restored Nation:

🌐 www.restorednation.org

💌 [email protected]

Join a Post-Abortive or Miscarriage Grief Group → restorednation.org/groups

Want to Get Involved?

Visit or volunteer at your local Pregnancy Resource Center.

Pray. Donate. Share their stories. Help spread truth that restores.

Unmasking the Myths: Inside Pregnancy Resource Centers offers an illuminating exploration into the often misunderstood realm of pregnancy resource centers, particularly as it pertains to the urgent needs of individuals facing unplanned pregnancies.

In this episode, Autumn and Jess engage in a profound dialogue with Brittany Gilchrist, RN, from Infinite Worth, who elucidates the pivotal role these 24/7 front line RN's play in providing compassionate support and accurate information.

Our discussion aims to dismantle prevalent misconceptions while emphasizing the importance of understanding the real experiences of those who seek assistance. We delve into the multifaceted challenges faced by these clients, thereby shedding light on the critical need for informed decision-making in the face of societal pressures.

Join us as we endeavor to bring truth to light and foster a narrative that respects the dignity and worth of every life.

**Timestamps:**

- 0:00 - Introduction

- 1:27 - Brittany Gilchrist journey

- 12:30 - A New Beginning: Embracing change & advocacy

- 14:37 - The launch and mission of Infinite Worth

- 25:54 - Understanding client needs & vulnerabilities

- 32:50 - Connecting with Pregnancy Resource Centers

- 36:56 - The urgency in decision-making in crisis situation

- 48:02 - The role of the church in supporting women facing unplanned pregnancies

- 54:09 - Closing thoughts and encouragement

Here are some ways viewers can contact Infinite Worth:

Brittany Gilchrist, RN

National Nurse Manager

[email protected]

To learn more about Infinite Worth, please visit [infiniteworth.org](http://infiniteworth.org)

For more information on their Prayer Warrior program, please click here: [Prayer Warrior Program]