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If sustainability means working in Europe while other regions pay the price, is it really sustainability at all? We sit down with Suzanne Geisler, founder of the SERA Institute in Vienna, to connect the dots between sustainable construction, energy efficiency, and the global systems that quietly keep our lifestyles up and running.
We talk about why the building sector is such a high-impact place to intervene, and why measuring performance is only useful if it drives real renovations and better decisions.
From there, the conversation widens into sufficiency: not just cleaner energy, but less energy and fewer raw materials demanded in the first place. That idea sounds like common sense, yet it grates against an economic model built on consumption, VAT receipts, and the promise of endless growth.
Suzanne challenges the logic of “external costs” and asks what fossil fuels and mined materials would cost if we counted lost lives, poisoned ecosystems, and forced migration. If you care about the circular economy, clean production, resource efficiency, and a just transition that is actually just, this conversation will stay with you. Enjoy!
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