On a warm California evening at a church social, a young Muslim Hafsa Lodi’s best friend, a Mormon, ran up to her and handed her a t-shirt. She unfurled it and in big, bold letters, it read: “Modest is Hottest”. Beaming, Hafsa proudly donned the t-shirt for many of her preteen years. It was not only a treasured token of girlhood friendship but in her own words, a powerful symbol of interfaith support. 

Nearly 20 years later, Hafsa is the esteemed author of Modesty: A Fashion Paradox, a short but densely packed book that expertly explores the history and culture of the modest fashion industry and its major players, as well as the political and religious dimensions of this controversial corner of contemporary fashion. 

It was a dream of mine to speak with Hafsa when I first read her book only a couple of months after I got the idea for this podcast, and I was so honored when she accepted my invitation to share her personal experiences with modesty beyond what she's written about publicly. I hope that her perspectives inspire you to reflect on your own relationship with your body and this funny thing called modesty. 

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REFERENCES:

Hafsa’s Socials:

Instagram

Twitter

Recent work

Purchase Modesty: A Fashion Paradox through your local bookseller:

https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781911107262

The Reflective Modest Marketplace:

https://www.the-reflective.com/

https://www.instagram.com/the_reflective_

Marwa Atik (Vela Scarves):
https://www.instagram.com/marwaatik/

Halima Aden:

https://www.instagram.com/halima/

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Closing music is “Little Tongues Chattering” by Ryan Webber, available on 

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 via the Katuktu Collective.

Uma Samari reads her poem, "If I Am Free". Listen to our full conversation wherever you found this podcast.

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REFERENCES:

Uma's Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/mydearestuma/

https://www.tiktok.com/@mydearestuma

Malcom X (1972 film):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X_(1972_film)

Marie Battiste:
https://education.usask.ca/profiles/battiste.php

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Closing music is “Little Tongues Chattering” by Ryan Webber, available on Onomatopoeia via the Katuktu Collective.

Uma Samari reads her poem, "Here (again)". Listen to our full conversation wherever you found this podcast.

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REFERENCES:

Uma's Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/mydearestuma/

https://www.tiktok.com/@mydearestuma

Malcom X (1972 film):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X_(1972_film)

Marie Battiste:
https://education.usask.ca/profiles/battiste.php

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Closing music is “Little Tongues Chattering” by Ryan Webber, available on Onomatopoeia via the Katuktu Collective.

Uma Samari reads her poem, "I Think of You Definitely". Listen to our full conversation wherever you found this podcast.

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REFERENCES:

Uma's Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/mydearestuma/

https://www.tiktok.com/@mydearestuma

Malcom X (1972 film):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X_(1972_film)

Marie Battiste:
https://education.usask.ca/profiles/battiste.php

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In Aboriginal thought, writes indigenous scholar of education, Marie Battiste, the spirit of the individual enters this earth, walking with a purpose for being here and with specific gifts for fulfilling that purpose. It has a hunger and a thirst for learning. If you're learning in one of Uma Samari's classrooms, your specific gifts will be uplifted and that hunger and thirst will be satiated. Hailing from a lineage of lifelong learners, Uma's work as an educator, poet, and creator focuses on learning as an act of healing and revolution. She aims to mold confident, curious, and collaborative children, which is an experience she was not gifted as a young girl who struggled with bullying and perfectionism.   Along the way, her journey with modesty and hijab have helped shape her identity and nourish her spirit. 

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REFERENCES:

Uma's Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/mydearestuma/

https://www.tiktok.com/@mydearestuma

Malcom X (1972 film):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X_(1972_film)

Marie Battiste:
https://education.usask.ca/profiles/battiste.php

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Closing music is “Little Tongues Chattering” by Ryan Webber, available on 

Onomatopoeia

 via the Katuktu Collective.

In Aboriginal thought, writes indigenous scholar of education, Marie Battiste, the spirit of the individual enters this earth, walking with a purpose for being here and with specific gifts for fulfilling that purpose. It has a hunger and a thirst for learning. If you're learning in one of Uma Samari's classrooms, your specific gifts will be uplifted and that hunger and thirst will be satiated. Hailing from a lineage of lifelong learners, Uma's work as an educator, poet, and creator focuses on learning as an act of healing and revolution. She aims to mold confident, curious, and collaborative children, which is an experience she was not gifted as a young girl who struggled with bullying and perfectionism.   Along the way, her journey with modesty and hijab have helped shape her identity and nourish her spirit. 

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REFERENCES:

Uma's Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/mydearestuma/

https://www.tiktok.com/@mydearestuma

Malcom X (1972 film):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X_(1972_film)

Marie Battiste:
https://education.usask.ca/profiles/battiste.php

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Closing music is “Little Tongues Chattering” by Ryan Webber, available on 

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 via the Katuktu Collective.

REFERENCES:

Nav’s Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/navthepoet/

https://www.tiktok.com/@navthepoet

https://twitter.com/navthepoet

General Sikh Learnings:

Learn about the Guru Granth Sahib:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZDpeqZ0z_c

Learn about dastar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dastar

Learn more about Sikhism on Let’s Talk Religion (another awesome Religion channel!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4-fuUJsEc

More Sikh History:

Indian Pakistan Partition History:
https://origins.osu.edu/milestones/december-2017-india-pakistan-partition?language_content_entity=en

2020 Indian Farmer Protests:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61912110

1984 Sikh Massacre
https://www.sikhcoalition.org/blog/2021/remembering-1984-2/

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Closing music is “Little Tongues Chattering” by Ryan Webber, available on Onomatopoeia via the Katuktu Collective. 

REFERENCES:

Nav’s Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/navthepoet/

https://www.tiktok.com/@navthepoet

https://twitter.com/navthepoet

General Sikh Learnings:

Learn about the Guru Granth Sahib:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZDpeqZ0z_c

Learn about dastar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dastar

Learn more about Sikhism on Let’s Talk Religion (another awesome Religion channel!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4-fuUJsEc

More Sikh History:

Indian Pakistan Partition History:
https://origins.osu.edu/milestones/december-2017-india-pakistan-partition?language_content_entity=en

2020 Indian Farmer Protests:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61912110

1984 Sikh Massacre
https://www.sikhcoalition.org/blog/2021/remembering-1984-2/

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Become a patron of Got You Covered for as little as a dollar a month

Follow @gotyoucoveredpod on Instagram

Follow @renaissance.they on Instagram and TikTok

Closing music is “Little Tongues Chattering” by Ryan Webber, available on Onomatopoeia via the Katuktu Collective. 

REFERENCES:

Nav’s Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/navthepoet/

https://www.tiktok.com/@navthepoet

https://twitter.com/navthepoet

General Sikh Learnings:

Learn about the Guru Granth Sahib:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZDpeqZ0z_c

Learn about dastar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dastar

Learn more about Sikhism on Let’s Talk Religion (another awesome Religion channel!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4-fuUJsEc

More Sikh History:

India-Pakistan Partition History:
https://origins.osu.edu/milestones/december-2017-india-pakistan-partition?language_content_entity=en

2020 Indian Farmer Protests:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61912110

1984 Sikh Massacre
https://www.sikhcoalition.org/blog/2021/remembering-1984-2/

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Become a patron of Got You Covered for as little as a dollar a month

Follow @gotyoucoveredpod on Instagram

Follow @renaissance.they on Instagram and TikTok

Closing music is “Little Tongues Chattering” by Ryan Webber, available on Onomatopoeia via the Katuktu Collective. 

REFERENCES:

Nav’s Socials:

https://www.instagram.com/navthepoet/

https://www.tiktok.com/@navthepoet

https://twitter.com/navthepoet

General Sikh Learnings:

Learn about the Guru Granth Sahib:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZDpeqZ0z_c

Learn about dastar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dastar

Learn more about Sikhism on Let’s Talk Religion (another awesome Religion channel!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4-fuUJsEc

More Sikh History:

India-Pakistan Partition History:
https://origins.osu.edu/milestones/december-2017-india-pakistan-partition?language_content_entity=en

2020 Indian Farmer Protests:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61912110

1984 Sikh Massacre
https://www.sikhcoalition.org/blog/2021/remembering-1984-2/

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Become a patron of Got You Covered for as little as a dollar a month

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Closing music is “Little Tongues Chattering” by Ryan Webber, available on Onomatopoeia via the Katuktu Collective.