*Debuting on October 16th exclusively to the Grab Bag Collab Patreon. Episodes will publish weekly on Wednesdays. 

May 1990. New Hampshire.

Gregg Smart had just been murdered in the condo he shared with his young wife, Pamela Smart, and just down the road, your host, Mel Barrett, was fifteen years old and absolutely believed what her family and neighbors were telling her: Twenty-two-year-old Pamela Smart used her sixteen-year-old lover to murder her husband. Now, thirty-four years later, Mel questions what she was told. Breaking down the case in real-time and speaking candidly with the people of New Hampshire, the legal team and the woman her people are convinced is guilty, Pamela Smart.

To this day, the people of New Hampshire are split right down the middle when it comes to the question: did she do it? Did she conspire with her teenage lover to kill her husband? Or is she also a victim of an unfair justice system that railroaded her? 

There is no in between for anyone in the state of NH. It’s completely black and white. In this first season of The In Between Podcast, Mel has made it her mission to find the grey areas, while not falling down the rabbit hole of the Pamela Smart true crime fandom nor the vitriolic dark spaces of the people who want to hang this woman in the town square.