This week, Daniella welcomes novelist and former Center for American Progress staffer Grant Ginder on the podcast to discuss his latest book, Let’s Not Do That Again. They break down the psychology of right-wing radicalization, Grant’s inspirations from Washington to Paris, and their wildest celebrity run-ins. Daniella also discusses the recent white supremacist terrorist attack in Buffalo, New York, and the urgency of gun violence prevention.

 

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