Tyler talks about the communication issues plaguing the defense and the examples, how Noah Kim didn't show him anything to question Thorne's job and gives a quick look ahead at what this upcoming Saturday means for Tucker.

Tyler and Ryan offer up a short preview for the OSU game, talk about Jay Johnson's ineptitude and ask how much time we give Tucker since everyone wants to bring up his contract. They also discuss how unreasonable (or reasonable) a certain request he made was.

Tyler dies inside talking about the same things that have plagued this Michigan State team all season. However, he does take a victory lap with Spartan fans getting behind something he's been talking about for three weeks (and no, it's not about Payton Thorne).

Anthony joins Tyler to talk about how special Grind Week is and the special meaning of the Izzone campout to him. They also discuss the playing rotation by position, how one of the four ball handlers can turn into the best in the Big Ten and how the toughest schedule in the Izzo era can help a hardened MSU team.

Thomas Wright joins Tyler to discuss the struggles on the entire defense (not just the secondary), Hazelton's future, if the issues are with the scheme or players. He also talks about Thorne playing hero ball, Tucker's contract and how MSU can match up against Maryland.

Tyler continues his defense of Payton Thorne as yesterday's Minnesota game show he's not the issue. He also rips Tucker for waiting this long to say schematic changes are (supposedly) coming defensively and for not playing Elijah Collins. Don't worry, he goes after Scottie Hazelton too.

Tyler and Ryan are still licking their wounds after the Washington game, but they open and close with a reason to celebrate. They also talk about MSU getting a little lucky on Minnesota's injury report, how it's time to incorporate a third running back and us getting a sneak peek last Saturday to a defensive scheme change that should be very prevalent against the Gophers.

Tyler talks about the disappointing loss to Washington, offers up a hot take regarding the running backs and throws Jay Johnson under the same bus everyone is putting Scottie Hazelton under. He also praises Payton Thorne for his efforts and talks about how MSU can still reach the expectation bestowed on them by the public throughout this season.

Tyler and Ryan talk about if Jacoby Windmon is more Shilique Calhoun or Jonal Saint-Dic, if Thorne to Coleman will get corrected this year and how Washington will show us the answer to both. They also talk about how to attack Michael Penix after his success against the Spartans at IU and if MSU can replace Reed and if they can win without him.

Tyler recaps the Akron game, discusses if the defense is really improved from last year and if we should be worried about Payton Thorne. He also talks about MSU in the polls and if Thorne hinders any of chances of repeating last year's success.