Grounded Futures Show

Season 4, ep 26: Weirding Time! with: Uli, Jams, carla joy, and a Time Talks History segment

In the season four opener, Uli, carla, and jams introduce some dreams for season 4, ruminate about other projects on the horizon, and reflect on their year off from making the Grounded Futures Show, and more! Plus, we will hear the first Time Talks History segment about the Doctrine of Discovery. 

Thanks for listening! 🌀

Show notes:

• Grounded Futures Book Club on Discord (email or dm us if this link doesn't work)
• Time Talks podcast
• Storyloom
• On Belonging
• Wording Our Worlds workbook
• Vicky Osterweil

Transcripts

Credits:

• The GF Show is created by Uli, carla joy, and jams
• Time Talks History is created by chris time steele
• Music for the show is by Zach F. Bergman/Sour Gout
• Mastered by Listening House/Chris Bergman

Time Talks History sources (in order) and further readings:

• The Racial Contract by Charles W. Mills
• An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz
• Loaded: A Disarming History of the Second Amendment by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz
• Pagans in the Promised Land: Decoding the Doctrine of Christian Discovery by Steven Newcomb
• Discourse on Colonialism by Aime Cesaire
• Race and the Enlightenment: A Reader by Emmanuel Chukwudi Eze
• Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome by Joy DeGruy
• Paradoxes of Hawaiian Sovereignty: Land, Sex, and the Colonial Politics of State Nationalism by J. Kehaulani Kauanui
• The Dawning of the Apocalypse by Gerald Horne

Further Reading:

• American Holocause by David Stannard
• The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon
• Open Veins of Latin America by Eduardo Galeano
• Silencing the Past by Michel-Rolph Trouillot
• Facing West: The Metaphysics of Indian Hating & Empire Building by Richard Drinnon
• Killing Rage: Ending Racism by bell hooks

The Grounded Futures Show, Episode 25: Remaining Unbroken, with chris time steele

“I've always been a rapper, since I was 12. So that's what I do. And it's the way I communicate best and most vulnerable.”

In their last episode of the season, Uli and carla share a wonderful talk-about with the always inspiring chris time steele!  A dreamer, writer, and poetic historian, chris’ digs into many topics, from Hip Hop to basketball to community organising to breaking apart propaganda to the philosophy and beauty of anime. We also play a game, talk about the importance of curiosity, care, and listening alongside being fearless as we break open and let go. There’s also some impressive freestyle and a fabulous song. 

Show notes:

• IG + Twitter
• chris’ podcast: Time Talks  
• chris’ Bandcamp
•  Time | Spotify
• Whose Dystopia? 
• Joy James book
• Time’s song about Sun Ra
•  ALL THE DREAMS I EVER HAD | calm.
•  chris’ new book “Acknowledging Radical Histories” with Gerald Horne (out later in 2023)

Recommendations:

• Mushi shi
• Saul williams: Neptune Frost
• Henry  Dumas -Ark of Bones
• Interview with Sun ra
• Trust Kids! 
• Alexis Pauline Gumbs
• Prison writings by Bobby Sands
• Psalm One
• Atlanta (Show)
•  Cambatta

Transcripts

chris time steele is a co-learner, hip-hop artist, journalist, storyteller, videographer, and writer. steele has an MA and is a precarious teacher who seeks to work outside typical teaching styles experimenting with hip-hop and co-mentorship. steele contributes to Truthout, has co-authored works with Noam Chomsky, Joy James, and Gerald Horne, and is host of the Time Talks podcast. Through music, under the alias Time, steele has worked with Common, Mick Jenkins, Xiu Xiu & Psalm One 

Music for our show by: Sour Gout

The GF Show art by Robin Carrico

Edited by Chris Bergman

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The Grounded Futures Show, Ep 24: The Struggle is Real, with Noleca Radway & Lily Mercogliano Easton

Uli and carla had a deep and vulnerable conversation with Lily and Noleca — two wonderful parents and educators — about the horrors of adult supremacy, the oppression of kids, and some pathways towards undoing adult supremacy and supporting youth freedom. They also talk about the joys and complexities of building trust within this power dynamic, the trappings of adulthood, what youth freedom looks like, and how this way of being in relationship with kids requires a profound resolve and devotion to care and love. There’s so much here, lots of real talk with plenty of curiosity and good humour woven in! And no fear: they both provide some concrete tips, too!  #TrustKids

Show Notes:

Raising Rebels Podcast 

Noleca’s Instagram

Lily’s twitter

Camp WA WA Segowea

The Story Store

Brooklyn Free School

Trust Kids! Book

Time Talks Podcast

Recommendations:

Lily’s:

 Raising Rebels Podcast 

Abby Wambaugh (comedian) + IG

Noleca’s:

Dear Mama: The Saga of Afeni and Tupac Shakur

Finding our Way Podcast

Transcripts

Bios

Noleca Radway is the Founder of Queer Media, a family production company specializing in audio and visual art through a Black Queer lens. She is the producer and host of the progressive parenting podcast Raising Rebels. Noleca is also the former Executive Director of the Brooklyn Free School, and now lives in Amsterdam with her partner and their three kids.

Lily Mercogliano Easton is an educator who lives with her three kids and husband in Albany, New York. She grew up at the Free School in Albany and was Head of School at Brooklyn Free School for twelve years. Lily is the Camp Director at Camp WA WA Segowea, and finds the most thriving and joy through parenting and building a trusting relationship with her kids (and one that’s imperfect in all the ways).

Music for our show by: Sour Gout

The GF Show art by Robin Carrico

Edited by Chris Bergman

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The Grounded Futures Show, Ep 23: Queer Brilliance, with Lindz Amer

“I hope that I can put a little bit of healing out into the world because I think we just need a lot more of that. There are a lot of hurt people out there.”

We had a pretty healing and joyful conversation with the fabulous writer, educator, and performer, Lindz Amer!  We talked about the importance of creating queer affirming media for little Kids (and their adults), joyfully stitching back together intergenerational connections within the LGBTQ+ communities, and traversing non-affirming spaces. We also get into the muck and nuance of tough topics and realities, such as anti-trans, transmisogyny, the many genders, sexuality, gender performance, power & privilege, socialisation, smashing the cis-hetero-patriarchy, and so much more. Let’s join Lindz in Spreading Queer Joy!

Show Notes

Lindz IG and twitter

Lindz website

Lindz podcast

Lindz book: Rainbow Parenting 

Disclosure Documentary 

Recommendations:

YA Queer books:

Jonny Garza Villa

"Felix Ever After" by Kacen Callender

Steven Universe

Astrology: the chani app

Astrology for Writers

A league of our own (reboot)

Doc McStuffins 

Vampirina

Spirit Ranges

Blues Clues and You

Sailor Moon

Uli’s

Bluey

Studio Ghibli Movies

Anime Series in general (Pokemon)

carla’s

Little Bear

TRANSCRIPTS

Lindz Amer creates LGBTQ+ and intersectional social justice media for kids and families. They created their beloved LGBTQ+ family webseries Queer Kid Stuff in 2016 which now has 4M lifetime views and counting! Their debut book "Rainbow Parenting: Your Guide to Raising Queer Kid and Their Allies" publishes on May 30, 2023 with St. Martin's Press. Currently, they host the Rainbow Parenting podcast, and perform at schools and libraries across the country, while also writing and consulting for children’s television. They worked with Nick Jr on the Webby award-winning Blues Clues & You “Pride Parade” music video, The Fabulous Show with Fay and Fluffy,  an upcoming episode of an extremely paw-pular show, and more! You can watch their TED Talk on why kids need to learn about gender and sexuality now with more than 2.5 million views! 

Music for our show by: Sour Gout

The GF Show art by Robin Carrico

Thanks for listening!

The Grounded Futures Show, episode 22: Dreaming a Future, with carla and Uli 

                 Delighting  in our Friends!

Uli and carla spend episode 22 delighting in pals, AKA celebrating awesome artists, storytellers, and musicians who range in ages 3 - 63.  This is an uplifting episode where they share wonderful songs, swoon over friends, and weave in other musings — including how they each find thriving in the everyday! Happy Palentines!

      💫 YOU ARE LOVED💫

Show Notes:

• Cat: @the_invisible_museum_

• ck nosun: @cknosun

• Grant Hoskins aka @gadzooksbazooka

• Jamie-Leigh Gonzales: storyloomdesign.com

• Uilliam’s art

• Julie Flett:  julieflett.com 

• Hari Alluri: @harialluri

• kitty lu bear: @fungifemme

• https://www.emergencyhearts.com/

• Time

• I'm Still Here (U.S. Political Prisoner Never Forgotten version) | scott crow, Televangel, Time, David M. Williams, Dissonance | eMERGENCY heARTS

• "Happiness in You" by Nadya Geta

• "A False Awakening" by AwareNess

Other Music played:

• Queen

• Aurora

•  Burial

Music for our show by: Sour Gout

The GF Show art by Robin Carrico

Sound Editing by Chris Bergman

Transcripts 

Thanks for listening!

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Lyrics for I'm Still Here (U.S. Political Prisoner Never Forgotten version)

 [scott crow, Dissonance]

I'm still here

These song notes are kite notes

Fire blinking, spelling love in Morse code

Floating between bars with messages of life boats

No more pipelines, the pipe broke

We melted every cage into a key until our mouths could recite hope

[Time]

He said when it rains he pretends the cement is the smell of wet stone

he said i want my grandkids to find fossils of prisons smelling sour 

like dead bones

The moon bowed to the birdsong morning

I'm trying to find god in an octave I'm still exploring

I mailed you libraries they threw em in the trash

The warden took your freedom but couldn't shackle your laugh

That's not dew, the prison grass is crying

The weeds that grow through the cracks is freedom trying

Birds drop seeds in the prison yard

Growing gardens of hope conspiring in the dark

The vines make a ladder and drape the barbwire

A crow flies overhead and drops a lighter

Orange reflects from her eye the image is fire

The ash swirls like a galaxy the stars wink and admire

He said "They will never be able to break me"

Turns out that's what broke the bars I've been reflecting on that lately

He said "I was dedicated to building things, not tearing them down"

He said “If you can breathe you can get through anything” I'm hearing him now

He said “If you can breathe you can get through anything” I'm hearing him now

[scott crow, Dissonance]

I'm still here

[Herman Wallace]

A defined voice

They removed my whisper

 From general population to maximum security

I gain a voice

They removed my voice from maximum security

To administrative segregation

My voice gave hope

They removed my voice from administrative segregation

To solitary confinement

My voice became vibration for unity

They removed by voice from solitary confinement

To the supermax of Camp J

And now they wish to destroy me

The louder my voice

The deeper they bury me

I said, the louder my voice

The deeper they bury me

Free all political prisoners

Prisoners of war

Prisoners of consciousness

Herman Wallace, Angola 3

[scott crow, Dissonance]

I'm still here

[Time]

This is for:

Herman Wallace

Russell Maroon Shoatz

Marilyn Buck

Alvaro Luna-Hernandez

Iya Fulani Sunni-Ali

Romaine Chip Fitzgerald

Afeni Shakur

Delbert Africa

Safiya Asya Bukhari

Richard Mafundi Lake

Oscar Washington

Luis Rodriguez

Mondo We Langa

Phil Africa

Brian McCarvill

Hugo Yogi Bear Pinell

Geronimo Ji Jaga

William Lefty Gilday

Alan Berkman

Eddie Hatcher

Bashir Hameed

Robert Hillary King

Merle Africa

Kuwasi Balagoon

Robert Webb

Tom Manning

and

Albert Woodfox

[scott crow]

Dream of future, know your history

Organize your people, fight to win

The Grounded Futures Show, Ep 21: Sparks In-Between, with Shuli Branson*

 “thinking alone is not as exciting as thinking together”

Shuli Branson, a Jewish transfemme anarchist writer, and artist, joined carla and Uli for an inspiring virtual walk to think (and feel) together. They go deep into Trans worlding and talk pathways to gender abolition, discovering voice, embracing not knowing, sampling ideas, learning through play and making mistakes, practical anarchism, and more! This joyful conversation covers a lot of ground, including a poetry reading!

*when we recorded this epsidoe, Shuli went by Scott.

TRANSCRIPTS

Show Notes:

Scott’s webpage

Scott on IG:

Scott on Twitter 

Practical Anarchism: A Daily Guide 

Gay Liberation after May 68

The Abolition of Prison

How I Became a Genre Bender and Found a Voice

Women on the Edge of Time

The Dispossessed  

The Earthsea Trilogy 

Witch Hat Atelier 

“We study with any person who can teach us.” -- Marge Piercy, Woman on the Edge of Time

Favourite quote by Ursula K, Le Guin:

 “But he had not brought anything. His hands were empty, as they had always been.” -- the Dispossessed 

Recommendations:

• I, Tituba Black Witch of Salem, by Maryse Condé
• 
  
• Akata Witch
• 
  
• Love, Anger, Madness: A Haitian Trilogy

Scott’s Poem:

where had we left you?

a long necked white creature

bobbing in the distance

on the lake

it was clear we had overlooked

the mysteries of the world

so white i wondered how it kept clean

in polluted waters

i can’t wear white pants without staining

the sun doesn’t cause waves but lets us see them

and the lake ripples into this white protuberance

a child’s drawing of a sea dinosaur smiling

so happy to be here

where had we left you?

but that’s the best we could have done

on the pier no one sees

she swims unnoticed

except by me, in my quick glance,

and i decide to avert my eyes

and let her be

*

​​Scott Branson is a Jewish transfemme anarchist writer, teacher, organizer, musician and artist. Scott is also a co-host on the anarchist radio show/podcast The Final Straw Radio. Their book, Practical Anarchism: A Daily Guide, just published by Pluto Press, offers ways to infuse everyday life with ideas of mutual responsibility and collective liberation, combining anarchist and queer/feminist approaches to relationships, work, and living. Their translation of the queer theorist and gay liberation militant Guy Hocquenghem’s second book, Gay Liberation after May 68, was published in April 2022 through Duke University Press’s Theory Q Series. Scott wrote a critical introduction that situates Hocquenghem’s queer anarchism in relation to current liberation movements. Scott translated longtime prison abolitionist, anarchist, ex-prisoner, and psychologist, Jacques Lesage De La Haye’s The Abolition of Prison (AK Press, 2021). Their edited volume, Surviving the Future: Abolitionist Queer Strategies will be published by PM Press in January 2023. 

Music for our show by: Sour Gout

The GF Show art by Robin Carrico

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The Grounded Futures Show, Ep 20: Alchemizing Futures, with Shaunga Tagore

“My desire is for everything in my life to be rooted in thriving, or the timeline of thriving.”

The magical episode where carla and Uli receive some deep healing via their wonderful guest, the quantum communicator, storyteller, weaver, and creatrix, Shaunga Tagore. Shaunga talks about their paradigm shifting project: Otherworldly Giants, as well as embracing ancestral connections, grief as love, communing with the cosmos and land, and of course, some Buffy! Enter into this magical portal with us, and feel and hear so much more!

Show Notes

Shaunga’s Otherworldly Giants: https://shaungatagore.com

Shaunga’s podcast: https://shaungatagore.com/channel/

Recommendations:

Buffy the Vampire Slayer

She-ra: the Princess of Power +  the 80s version 

Transcript

Bio:

Shaunga Tagore is a queer, prizmatic (non-binary) theatre artist, writer, speaker, cat mama & Buffy enthusiast. (And they weren’t kidding when they called her, well, a witch.) Her witchy powers and ancestral roles include, but are not limited to: quantum communicator, creatrix, death doula, time keeper & grief worker. Shaunga is the founder of Otherworldly Giants, a creation company and storytelling school where we create and study stories that serve as altars for building a new world paradigm. Shaunga has spent the last decade working as an astrologer, cosmic coach, artist, and producer, primarily in queer, racialized, survivor, and disability justice oriented communities.

Music for our show by: Sour Gout

The GF Show art by Robin Carrico

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The Grounded Futures Show, Ep #19 Liberated Care, with Zena Sharman

“I think about care as a process, as an ongoing act of weaving — that it is this active thing that we do, that happens in relationships, that happens in communities.”

Zena Sharman joins the show to talk casting spells and weaving webs of care beyond institutions. This episode is all about intergenerational solidarity, and queering kinship and care in the everyday. Zena is a writer, speaker, strategist and LGBTQ+ health advocate and our conversation goes deep into the radical possibilities for care as an ongoing, consensual process — from grief care to ageing and dying, to gender open parenting, to centring pleasure and disability justice in health care.

Show Notes

Follow Zena on Twitter

Zena’s two books:

The Care We Dream Of: Liberatory and Transformative Approaches to LGBTQ+ Health

 The Remedy: Queer and Trans Voices on Health and Health Care

Photo of Zena for show is by K. Ho

Recommendations: 

• Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha’s books Care Work: Dreaming Disability Justice and The Future is Disabled
• 
  
• Megan Linton’s Invisible Institutions podcast
• 
  
• Hil Malatino’s book Trans Care (the free open access version is available here)
• 
  
• Jules Gill-Peterson's article Doctors Who? Radical lessons from the history of DIY transition
• I didn't mention it during the interview, but this podcast interview The Legend of the Orchi Shed with Guest Eilís Ni Fhlannagáin is another wonderful example of an oral history about trans DIY health care
• The book Trans Bodies, Trans Selves (second edition)
• 
  
• Katie Batza’s book Before AIDS: Gay Health Politics in the 1970s
• 
  
• Dean Spade's mutual aid course syllabus, which includes Katie Batza's book alongside other health-related titles like Alondra Nelson’s book Body and Soul: The Black Panther Party and the Fight against Medical Discrimination and the history of the Young Lords' health organizing, which is also covered in Mia Donovan’s Dope is Death podcast and documentary
• 
  
• Interrupting Criminalization's brief We Must Fight In Solidarity With Trans Youth: Drawing the Connections Between Our Movements

Transcript

Zena Sharman is a writer, speaker, strategist and LGBTQ+ health advocate. She’s the author of three books, including The Care We Dream Of: Liberatory and Transformative Approaches to LGBTQ+ Health (published by Arsenal Pulp Press in the fall of 2021). Zena edited the Lambda Literary award-winning anthology The Remedy: Queer and Trans Voices on Health and Health Care. She’s also an engaging speaker who brings her passion for LGBTQ+ health to audiences of health care providers, students and community members at universities and conferences across North America. You can learn more about Zena and her work at https://zenasharman.com/

Music for our show by: Sour Gout

The GF Show art by Robin Carrico

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Grounded Futures Show, Ep #18:  Feels Real Good, with Khari McClelland

“To be human is to be creative, and to allow yourself that privilege is where it is at…"

Khari McClelland, an award-winning musician and creative facilitator, joined us to launch season three! In this episode, Khari speaks about creating with and for community through time, what it means to be a just person, and the importance of growing and tending all our relations, while also embracing humility and the possibilities of being wrong — walking and falling and rising up together.

Show Notes:

Moving the Centre (Khari’s book)

Khari's music

Facilitation/Courses

Talk about sailing and water with Khari on IG: @igobykhari

Quote from episode: “Boundaries are the distance at which I can love you and me simultaneously.” — Prentis Hemphill

Lucille Clifton: Blessing the Boats

Bio:

Imaginative. Bold. Genuine. Hopeful. 

Khari Wendell McClelland is an award-winning musician and creative facilitator who uses the arts and experiential activities for transformational learning. 

Based in Vancouver, Canada, Khari has worked with communities across Africa, Australia, Europe, North America and the Caribbean. 

In a world with increasingly complex societal challenges, the need for values-based creative solutions is paramount. 

​Khari helps youth and adults explore core values and creativity as a means to self-actualization, community building and problem solving.  

His approach is warm, insightful and engaging.

Transcript 

Music for our show by: Sour Gout

GF show art by Robin Carrico

Thanks for listening!

Grounded Futures Show, Ep #17: Feeling and Building More, with Eleanor Goldfield

“We need to connect to what feels like justice, what feels like freedom, and not just what sounds like it.”

The fabulous creative radical, Eleanor Goldfield joins us to talk about the importance of amplifying censored stories and radical ideas, rights vs Justice, the limits of language, the inherent violence of the state, finding ways to embrace pockets of thriving alongside despair, and so much more! 

Links

Eleanor’s Website: ArtKillingApathy.com

HardRoadofHope.com

RadIndieMedia.com

Song: Floodlight 

LeeCamp.net

Common Censored

Project Censored Episode on Roe vs. Wade

Silver Threads Podcast

Shout Your Aborotion 

Act Out

Book recommendations:

Sentient 

Hiking with Nietzsche: On Becoming Who You Are

By John Kaag

Transcripts

Music for our show by:Sour Gout

Logo art by Robin Carrico

Thanks for listening!