Grow Places

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by Stephanie Edwards, Architect, Urban Designer and Co-Founder of Urban Symbiotics, to explore what it truly means to put people at the forefront of meaningful change in the built environment. Stephanie shares how Urban Symbiotics works at the intersection of people, data and design, using demographically representative engagement to turn lived experience into evidence that shapes better places. From street conversations and stay-and-play groups to targeted social media and multilingual outreach, she explains how her team meets people where they are, building trust and gathering insights that enrich the design process rather than replacing it. Drawing on projects spanning London boroughs, rural market towns, Lebanon and South America, Stephanie makes a compelling case for why community engagement is not a nice-to-have but an essential part of delivering places that genuinely work.

The conversation also explores the challenges of maintaining trust over long project timescales, the gap between consultation and genuine participation, and why the lessons of the Grenfell Tower tragedy must not be forgotten. Stephanie reflects on her own journey from architecture and master planning into participatory design, describing the moment she realised that engagement insight arrived too late to shape the outcome, and how that experience led to the founding of Urban Symbiotics. From meanwhile use strategies in Dagenham to community handbooks in Purley and an intergenerational master plan in the Lebanese mountains, she demonstrates how hyper-local understanding and genuine collaboration can unlock better outcomes for communities, clients and design teams alike.

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson travels to Copenhagen to meet Christian Søndergaard, Head of Saxogade, what may be the world's only socio-economic street. For over 40 years, the nine-shop operation run by an NGO has combined commercial vitality with meaningful work opportunities for people facing significant barriers to employment, from long-term illness to homelessness.

Christian explains how the street functions as a real business whilst providing structured pathways back into work for around 100 people each week. Tasks are carefully broken down so that individuals can contribute genuine value rather than perform token activities. The model is deliberately not about volunteering as a resource, it is about agency, about being part of something, about creating value for others when you have spent years needing help yourself. The result is a thriving Copenhagen street that competes commercially whilst creating space for everyone.

The conversation explores the stepping stone method, the three-way funding model that sustains the work, and why quality matters more than pity. Christian shares the story of a formerly homeless man who moved from intern to apartment to paid employment, and reflects on the intersection of meaning, fairness and city-making. He describes why he believes this model could work elsewhere, the daily challenge of balancing commercial and social needs, and what drives him personally to work at a place where the people you serve and the city you shape are inseparable.

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by Hilary Satchwell, Director at Tibbalds Planning and Urban Design, to explore what it really means to put people at the heart of placemaking. Hilary reflects on nearly three decades at Tibbalds, where she has worked across scales and settings, from the edges of small towns to the centre of London, always with a focus on creating people-friendly places. She describes how thinking about specific people, their journeys, their safety, their daily lives, rather than a generic "everyone," leads to fundamentally better outcomes. The conversation touches on why good planning and good design are inseparable, and how collaborative, multi-disciplinary teams that share a clear objective can navigate even the most complex projects.

The discussion also explores Tibbalds' recently published research into mid-rise development and the "missing middle," the three-to-seven-storey density that characterises some of our most valued historic places but has become increasingly difficult to deliver. Hilary unpacks the barriers, from planning rules around overlooking and parking to the decline of SME developers, and makes the case for clearer prioritisation if we want to achieve the variety and richness our towns and cities need. Beyond housing numbers, she argues passionately for social and cultural life to be treated as essential, not as a bonus. Drawing on her work as a Mayor's Design Advocate and her involvement with Part W's Built Barriers campaign, Hilary calls for planning that actively considers the needs of specific groups, particularly around safety and inclusion, and imagines a future where project briefs are written around how places should make people feel. Warm, curious and optimistic, she makes a compelling case for designing with emotion, specificity and genuine human understanding.

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by Gerry Hughes, Managing Director of Gerry Hughes Consulting, to explore leadership, delivery and the realities of urban regeneration. Gerry reflects on stepping away from the corporate world to focus on projects that genuinely “make a difference,” from leading a major city-centre regeneration scheme in Belfast to delivering a cutting-edge nuclear science and clean energy campus near Bristol. Drawing on decades of experience across strategy, planning and executive leadership, he shares candid insights into why delivery in the UK is so challenging — pointing to bureaucracy, siloed thinking and a planning system he believes is fundamentally in need of reform. Throughout the conversation, Gerry returns to a central theme: the importance of strategic thinking, strong leadership and keeping a clear, shared vision to navigate complexity and turn ambitious plans into reality.

The discussion also delves into housing delivery, public–private partnerships and the regeneration of cities such as Manchester and Belfast. Gerry reflects on formative experiences including the East Manchester regeneration framework and the influence of civic leadership in shaping long-term success. In Belfast, where he is now helping deliver a 1,000-home mixed-use scheme in the heart of the city, he describes a people-first approach focused on streetscape, heritage and creating lasting neighbourhoods. Passionate yet pragmatic, Gerry argues for greater risk-sharing between sectors, infrastructure-led growth and empowering cities with stronger leadership. Despite the challenges facing the UK property sector, he remains optimistic — believing that with the right vision, collaboration and courage, places can be shaped in ways that genuinely improve people’s lives.

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by John Williams of Scail UK to explore what it really means to get ahead with AI — and where the built environment should be doubling down as technology accelerates. John shares his journey from journalism, through senior marketing roles in property, to building AI-led businesses focused not on hype, but on unlocking the story inside organisational data.

Together, they discuss why AI is only as powerful as the data and context behind it, why real estate still struggles to understand the “why” behind customer decisions, and how unstructured conversations — from stakeholder meetings to emails — can become structured intelligence when approached with the right methodology. The conversation expands into the future of cities, personal AI agents, and what it might mean for buildings and neighbourhoods to publish meaningful data rather than relying on static digital interfaces. At its heart, this is an optimistic discussion about AI removing administrative burden and amplifying the most human parts of our work: judgement, creativity, synthesis, and relationships.

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, host Tom Larsson is joined by Ailish Killilea of The Townscape Consultancy, for a compelling exploration of heritage, townscape, and their roles in shaping places people want to live, work, and visit.

Ailish reflects on her journey from the west of Ireland to London’s complex urban fabric and her experiences running marathons, sharing how her fascination with human experience and design led to a career in townscape and heritage consulting. The conversation covers the nuanced balance between preservation and progress, how to assess the significance of buildings and places, and the often overlooked human side of planning — from daily commutes to moments of surprise and civic pride.

With references to cities like Barcelona, Paris, and Chicago, this episode offers insight into global approaches to urban identity and density, as well as the importance of collaborative, iterative design processes in shaping sensitive, context-aware development.

Whether you're a planner, architect, developer, or simply someone who cares about how cities evolve, this episode offers an inspiring look at how to build the future without erasing the past. 

In this powerful episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson speaks with Pooja Agrawal, co-founder and CEO of Public Practice, a pioneering not-for-profit that places built environment professionals into local government roles to drive meaningful change.

Pooja shares her journey from growing up in Mumbai to becoming a passionate advocate for public service in the UK. She dives deep into the importance of multidisciplinary teams in local government, the challenges of resourcing in the public sector, and why empathy between public and private sectors is more vital than ever.

🔍 Episode Highlights

• How Public Practice is placing professionals into councils to close skills gaps
• The long-term value of design and spatial thinking in local government
• Why 75% of associates stay in the public sector post-placement
• The financial realities of local councils and their effect on planning
• The role of empathy in public-private collaboration
• Insights on the New Towns programme and the future of place-led development
• International perspectives: what the UK can learn from Mumbai, Denmark, and more
• Pooja’s vision for public sector confidence, leadership, and systems change

🌍 Learn more about Public Practice: https://www.publicpractice.org.uk
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How do you actually deliver a school, an office, or a housing block and turn it into something extraordinary?

In this episode, Tom Larsson speaks with Paul Monaghan, co-founder of AHMM, about a career spent designing buildings that shape everyday life and the people behind them. With warmth, honesty, and a quiet determination, Paul reflects on the evolution of architecture, the joy of delivering real projects, and why staying grounded matters in an ever-changing industry.

💬 From building loyalty inside his firm to earning the trust of clients and planners, Paul shares stories of lessons learned, challenges embraced, and the belief that good design can genuinely change lives.

🏗️ “The next building we do will be the best one we do”

Whether you're in architecture, property, or simply care about how places shape people, this is a conversation worth hearing.

In this episode, Tom Larsson is joined by Kevin McKeever, Managing Director of Lowick Group, a leading strategic communications and public affairs consultancy working at the intersection of development, politics, and community. Kevin also recently co-founded Hedry, a cross-party consultancy focused on building resilience in the built environment.

This wide-ranging and honest conversation unpacks the urgent challenges facing the UK’s housing and planning system, from viability and delivery to trust and political will. Drawing on decades of experience in local government, Westminster, and large-scale regeneration, Kevin provides sharp insights into the systemic issues stalling progress and what it will take to build places that work for people now and in the future.

Topics covered include:

• Why trust has broken down between developers and the public sector
• The economics of viability and the political misunderstanding around it
• How the left and right frame “growth” and what that means for cities
• The role of public sector land and long-term partnerships in delivery
• The limitations of our planning system and the case for a reset

Kevin also shares personal reflections on why this work matters to him and the human impact of good development done well.

💡 Whether you're a planner, policymaker, developer or engaged citizen, this episode offers a deeply informed and thought-provoking perspective on how to get Britain building again, fairly, sustainably, and strategically.

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