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  • 51. Book Club: Atomic Habits by James Clear with Tyneal Alexander from Ritual Consulting and Keltie Maguire from The Clarity Podcast

    Hey Book Lovers! You’re listening to a #GrowGetters Book Club episode!

    Each month, we unpack, dissect, and discuss some of the hottest non-fiction releases that have the potential to positively impact your careers, and your lives!


    Today, we are discussing Atomic Habits by productivity and behavioural expert, James Clear! Atomic Habits is all about how small changes that we make in our lives, can compound into life-altering transformations!


    The book claims that any good habit that is continuously repeated over time, no matter how small, will have a positive impact on your life in the long-run. Selling 1 million copies worldwide, and hitting number 1 on the New York Times Best-seller list, Atomic Habits is a book that has transcended the business world and can be enjoyed and implemented by just about anyone. But before we get started in our discussion, we have, not one, but TWO very special guests joining us today!


    Our first guest is Tyneal Alexander who is the co-Founder of Byron Bay-based business, marketing and brand consultancy, Ritual Consulting.


    She has developed a career in marketing and advertising for over 15 years, working for large multinationals, medium sized agencies and small purpose-led businesses, before starting Ritual Consulting with her partner, Laura Allman.


    After almost 30 years of combined marketing & advertising experience in the corporate world, Tyneal and Laura were fed up with seeing wasted marketing dollars, mediocre brand differentiation, and disappointed customers - so they decided that maybe there was something they could do about it. And so Ritual Consulting was born over a margarita, a beach-side view, and a simple mission to build meaningful brands and successful businesses.


    Our second guest is a familiar face (or voice in our case!). She has joined us in a previous Book Club episode and our listeners absolutely loved her insights. So back by popular demand, is the one and only Keltie Maguire!


    She is a clarity coach, speaker, and podcaster herself, whose purpose is to help small business owners & professionals cut through the overwhelm, get clear on their desires, and take aligned action.


    And of course as always, you’ll be hearing from me, Tanya Garma, your Book Club host for today, and of course #GrowGetters own startup extraordinaire and business babe, Tiffany Hart!


    So ladies, let’s get started and let’s get into the uber popular book ATOMIC HABITS!


    Plus...

    If you want some more sweet, sweet inspo, check out our Insta page, and please follow us at @growgetterspodcast !! :)


    And if you’re still hungry for more, our #GrowGetters GROWTH HACKS NEWSLETTER is designed to keep you up-skilled and up-to-date on all the latest tips, models, and trends - so sign up at www.growgetterspodcast.com/newsletter


    Your hosts are:

    Award-winning brand strategist and writer, Tanya Garma (@tanyagarma)

    Forbes-listed startup founder and entrepreneur, Tiffany Hart (@tiffanyclairehart)


    To stay in touch with Tyneal and Keltie - you can follow them here: 


    Tyneal

    Insta: https://www.instagram.com/ritualconsulting/

    Website: https://www.ritualconsulting.com.au/


    Keltie

    Insta: https://www.instagram.com/keltiemaguire/

    Website: https://www.keltiemaguir

    45 min
  • 50. How to rapidly increase your productivity with Kanban

    Hey Guys! You’re listening to #GrowGetters – the future skills podcast for smart women in business. We exist for one simple reason: we are here to help you GROW! Each week, we drop a brand new ep that covers the latest trends, tools, tips to make sure your business or career is future-ready!


    Today we you’re chatting with Grow Getters hosts: Tiffany Hart and Tanya Garma.


    In this episode, we are going to delve into the agile practice of KANBAN! We take you through what KANBAN is and how you can use it in your daily work life. There are a ton of ways to keep you and your work team organised and ahead of the game - but KANBAN is a hugely successful and proven practice which we are both personally MASSIVE fans of!!


    So if you are looking to level up your productivity, efficiency, and organisation at work - then this is an episode not to miss. So without further adieu - let’s dive into today’s FUTURE SKILL episode.


    Plus...

    If you want some more sweet, sweet inspo, check out our Insta page and please follow us at @growgetterspodcast !! :)


    And if you’re still hungry for more, our #GrowGetters GROWTH HACKS NEWSLETTER is designed to keep you up-skilled and up-to-date on all the latest tips, models, and trends - so sign up at www.growgetterspodcast.com/newsletter


    Your hosts are:

    Award-winning brand strategist and writer, Tanya Garma (@tanyagarma)

    Forbes-listed startup founder and entrepreneur, Tiffany Hart (@tiffanyclairehart)

    13 min
  • 49. How to successfully launch a standout podcast that gets ranked on Apple Podcasts and Spotify with Charlotte Han and Daniel Fuerg (live event)

    Hey Guys! You’re listening to #GrowGetters – the future skills podcast for smart women in business. We exist for one simple reason: we are here to help you GROW! Each week, we drop a brand new ep that covers the latest trends, tools, tips to make sure your business or career is future-ready!


    Today we have a different listening experience for you. Recently Tanya and I were invited to speak at an online event, hosted by our friends from the Re:Think Community - called ‘Launching a Podcast During a Pandemic’. Charlotte Han, our favourite futurist and dear friend of the podcast moderated this chat been Daniel, Tanya and I.


    Daniel Fuerg is the founder of the mega-successful European conference ‘48 Forward’ & founder of ‘The 48 Forward Studios’ (a top-notch podcasting studio based in Munich.) Daniel and his team have produced over 500 episodes since the start of the pandemic (which is a lot), they have 7 podcasts they personally run, and his podcast called ‘Gin and Talk’ recently made it to the Trending List on the German Apple Podcast charts.


    As you’ll hear, your #GrowGetters team, Tiff, and Tan also sat on the panel. Nearly 12 months ago we dropped our pilot episode of the podcast, and it’s honestly head-spinning to see where we’ve come since then. We had no idea how our passion project would take on a life of its own and grow to be an international podcast - listened to by women (and men) in Australia, NZ, south-east Asia, Europe, the UK, and the US.


    Tens of thousands of downloads later, with world-class guests featured on our show, and ranking in the top 20 career podcasts in Australia and top 5 in New Zealand (not to mention in Germany, the Netherlands, and the Czech Republic) we could have never imagined that our pod-baby could achieve all this. And it’s all because of you!! Our loyal listeners that we hope we are inspiring each week to future proof your businesses and careers.


    Soooo friends this masterclass is really fun, conversational, and dives into the fundamental questions you should think about if you want to start your own podcast.


    We cover:

    • How to get started
    • How to find a niche
    • Lessons we’ve learned so far
    • What equipment you can buy
    • What editing options you have
    • How to market and grow your podcast organically
    • How to make money podcasting, and so much more.


    This masterclass goes for about an hour - so without further ado - grab your note pad and pen as there’s lots of juicy take aways in todays ep.


    Let’s get started!!


    Plus...

    If you are thinking about starting a podcast, and not sure how to take the next step to get started - please reach out to us via DM or email. We are developing a series of Future Skills Courses - and one will be on how to create your own successful independent podcast. So to find out more - please head on over to our website at www.growgetterspodcast.com/courses


    Now if you want some more sweet, sweet inspo, check out our Insta page and please follow us at @growgetterspodcast !! :)


    And if you’re still hungry for more, our #GrowGetters GROWTH HACKS NEWSLETTER is designed to keep you up-skilled and up-to-date on all the latest tips, models, and trends - so sign up at www.growgetterspodcast.com/newsletter


    Your hosts are:

    Award-winning brand strategist and writer, Tanya Garma (@tanyagarma)

    Forbes-listed startup founder and entrepreneur, Tiffany Hart (@tiffanyclairehart)

    1 hr 2 min
  • 48. How to raise your professional profile for career success with PR expert and author, Bec Brown

    Hey Guys! You’re listening to #GrowGetters – the future skills podcast for smart women in business. We exist for one simple reason: we are here to help you GROW! Each week, we drop a brand new ep that covers the latest trends, tools, tips to make sure your business or career is future-ready!


    Today we are hosting an awesome Masterclass with one of Australia’s leading public relations experts, and a hugely successful female founder herself, Bec Brown!


    Bec is the founder and managing director of The Comms Department - a PR, social media, corporate comms, and crisis management agency.


    They specialise in entertainment, media, travel, and lifestyle brands and are located in Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane, but work globally.


    Bec launched The Comms Department in 2012, as she saw a need for an authentic and positive approach to PR and media relations in Australia. But what’s more, Bec set up her business nearly 9 years ago as a remote business that has never had a ‘traditional’ office. She wanted to give everyone on her team the flexibility to work from home (pre-COVID). Over the years they’ve fine-tuned their structures and procedures for maximum output and enjoyment. And their clients also love it because they pay for their expertise, not their central office overhead.


    They have a star-studded list of long-term and repeat clients that include the Australian Radio Network, brands such as iHeartRadio and the iHeartPodcast Network, Bras N Things, Cover-More Travel Insurance, NBCUniversal’s hayu, Red Nose Day, Universal & Sony Music, The Wiggles, and many many more. Bec has been propped as the best in the business as she is dedicated to helping her clients manage their reputations and grow their revenue at their most crucial times.


    Before starting The Comms Department, Bec spent half a decade as Senior Publicity & Promotions Manager for the world’s largest record company, Universal Music.


    But Bec’s career started off a little differently. Bec’s passion for music led her to study a Bachelor of Music at the University of Adelaide. This gave her the foundation to work professionally for 6 years as a vocalist on stage and recording in Australia, Asia, and Europe. She had the pleasure of performing alongside some of the world’s best singers and musicians.


    Not only is Bec a PR powerhouse, but she’s also a talented writer that just launched her book with publisher Penguin Books - called You Got This. Since the launch of her book in September, Bec has been featured on Mumbrella, Channel 7’s The Morning Show, The Briefing from the PodcastOne Network, and many more publications.

    We absolutely loved learning from this amazing lady. So if you’re looking to raise your profile for your business or career to set yourself apart in your industry - then this masterclass is a must-listen!!


    Plus…


    If you want to stay in contact with Bec, you can follow her on Instagram at @becbrowncommunications and @thecommsdepartment. To find out more info on The Comms Department, check out their website here and follow them on LinkedIn.


    You can grab a copy of Bec’s book in print, ebook or audio ‘You Got This’ on Amazon, Booktopia,

    47 min
  • 47. Book Club: Rework by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson from Basecamp with Edison Agency founder, Amber Bonney

    Hey Book Lovers! You’re listening to a #GrowGetters Book Club episode! Each month, we unpack, dissect, and discuss some of the hottest non-fiction releases that have the potential to positively impact your careers, and your lives!


    Today, we are discussing REWORK by the incredibly inspirational founders of tech company, Basecamp, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson!


    Basecamp is the stupidly simple, yet powerfully productive software that helps teams get organised, communicate, and get stuff done! Tiffany and I MASSIVE fangirls of Basecamp (yep, major nerd alert here!!) and we are absolute devotees of their seminal business book - REWORK - which we are so excited to feature on the #GrowGetters Book Club today!


    REWORK was first published a decade ago, but it is so progressive, forward-thinking, and revolutionary, it feels extremely contemporary and extra poignant in today’s working climate.


    REWORK is almost like the “anti-business book” because of its strong opinions on some of the traditional stalwarts of the modern workplace, and of business strategy in general.


    It rejects the status quo, and uses the experience both authors have gleaned from creating Basecamp, to prove that things CAN be done differently, and you can STILL be successful.


    But before we dive in, we have a very special guest joining us! Amber Bonney is the Founder and Managing Director of the award-winning business, The Edison Agency. She is a branding and identity strategist, guest lecturer, speaker, and current President of the Creative Women’s Circle - one of Australia’s largest communities of women working in the creative industries - AND a proud partner of the #GrowGetters podcast.


    Amber is known for her brand prowess, developing outstanding creative solutions to her clients’ real commercial problems, and delivering human-centered, relevant, and differentiated experiences for their users.

    With over 20 years’ experience across diverse industry sectors, Amber is passionate about marrying both traditional and disruptive design methods that activate, provoke, and inspire. In a nutshell, she is a brand-building powerhouse, helping organisations to connect, transform, excite, gain trust, disrupt, transform, and be seen!

    And of course, as always, you’ll be hearing from, Tanya Garma, and Tiffany Hart - co-hosts of the #GrowGetters podcast.


    So ladies, let’s get started - come and join the discussion about the brilliant book REWORK.


    Plus...


    If you want some more sweet, sweet inspo, check out our Insta page and please follow us at @growgetterspodcast !! :)


    And if you’re still hungry for more, our #GrowGetters GROWTH HACKS NEWSLETTER is designed to keep you up-skilled and up-to-date on all the latest tips, models, and trends - so sign up at www.growgetterspodcast.com/newsletter


    Your hosts are:

    Award-winning brand strategist and writer, Tanya Garma (@tanyagarma)

    Forbes-listed startup founder and entrepreneur, Tiffany Hart (@tiffanyclairehart)


    To stay in touch with Amber - you can follow her here: 


    CWC Insta: https://www.instagram.com/creativewomenscircle/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberbonney/

    Website: https://edison.agency/

    47 min
  • 46. How to create a product used by millions all over the world with Head of Product Strategy at Basecamp, Ryan Singer

    Hey Guys! You’re listening to #GrowGetters – the future skills podcast for smart women in business. We exist for one simple reason: we are here to help you GROW! Each week, we drop a brand new ep that covers the latest trends, tools, tips to make sure your business or career is future-ready!


    Today we are hosting an unmissable masterclass with the Head of Product Strategy at Basecamp - Ryan Singer.


    Ryan Singer is an absolute legend that’s been with Basecamp since the beginning. 17 years ago, Ryan started his working relationship with Jason Fried (CEO and Co-founder of Basecamp) and David Heinemeier-Hansson, (CTO and also the Co-founder of Basecamp - ANNNDD the founder of one of the world’s most popular web development/ programming frameworks, Ruby-On-Rails).


    Back when it all started, it was just Jason, David, and Ryan in their web design firm. Now Basecamp has over 50 employees, across 32 different cities from around the world. Their headquarters are in Chicago, but everyone at Basecamp is free to live and work wherever they want. They are huge believers in remote work - they even wrote a book about it - called Remote. These guys are so freakin’ AMAZING, they also wrote the new york times best-selling book, ‘Rework’ - which is also our book club pick this month here at #GrowGetters.


    Whatever the Basecamp guys touch, turns to gold. They were developing revolutionary web designs nearly 2 decades ago - and now they develop one of the most popular software apps for businesses. To date, 3.3 million people have signed up for Basecamp and they continue to build revolutionary tools that are simple, clear, easy to use, honest, and reliable for their customers.


    Ryan has been working on all levels of the software stack, from UI design to back-end programming to strategy. Ryan’s curiosity and persistence to understand what people ACTUALLY need has allowed him to design features that have been used by millions of people all over the world.


    As the head of strategy, Ryan is responsible for the design and build of all of Basecamps products - including their latest product, Hey - a ground-up reinvention of email, designed for how we all use email today.


    He is dedicated to truly understanding what customers are trying to do - and finding solutions to make products fit them better.


    Ryan is the co-host of the podcast, ‘Demand Thinking’, and the host of ‘Synthetic A Priori’. He is also the author of ‘Shape Up: Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work that Matters’ - another incredible Basecamp title.


    So if you want to learn about the fundamentals of product design and how to create the product of your dreams...from one of the world’s BEST product designers, then this ep. is definitely one NOT to miss.


    Plus…


    If you want to stay in contact with Ryan, you can follow him on
    Twitter at
    @rjs, as well via his website https://www.feltpresence.com/


    As mentioned on the podcast, Ryan wrote a book called ‘Shape Up: Stop Running In Circles and Ship Work That Matters’ - you can find it here.


    And if you want to check out Basecamp - click here.


    Also if you want some more sweet, sweet inspo, check out our Insta page, and please follow us at @growgetterspodcast !! :)


    And if you’re still hungry for more, our #GrowGetters GROWTH HACKS NEWSLETTER is designed to keep you up-skilled and up-to-date on all the latest tips, model

    57 min
  • 45. 4 ways to boost your productivity using SCRUM

    Hey Guys! You’re listening to #GrowGetters – the future skills podcast for smart women in business. We exist for one simple reason: we are here to help you GROW! Each week, we drop a brand new ep that covers the latest trends, tools, tips to make sure your business or career is future-ready!


    Today you’re chatting with Grow Getters hosts: Tiffany Hart and Tanya Garma.


    In today’s episode, we are going to take a look at Scrum and guide you on how you can scrum as one. We will find out what scrum is, why the methodology exists, and how you can use it in your daily life.


    Since the start of the pandemic, people that work in offices are now primarily working from home. And as you might have already experienced, mixing your work and home life together can be hard to keep disciplined and focused. There are endless distractions in our home environment - so if you are looking to up your productivity game - this is an episode not to miss! In this episode, we will give you 4 awesome tips on how you can integrate scrum into your work life.


    So let’s dive into today’s FUTURE SKILL episode.


    Plus...

    If you want some more sweet, sweet inspo, check out our Insta page, and please follow us at @growgetterspodcast !! :)


    And if you’re still hungry for more, our #GrowGetters GROWTH HACKS NEWSLETTER is designed to keep you up-skilled and up-to-date on all the latest tips, models, and trends - so sign up at www.growgetterspodcast.com/newsletter


    Your hosts are:

    Award-winning brand strategist and writer, Tanya Garma (@tanyagarma)

    Forbes-listed startup founder and entrepreneur, Tiffany Hart (@tiffanyclairehart)

    17 min
  • 44. How to generate recurring revenue via a membership business model with Mums With Hustle founder, Tracy Harris

    Hey Guys!


    You’re listening to #GrowGetters – the future skills podcast for smart women in business. We exist for one simple reason: we are here to help you GROW! Each week, we drop a brand new ep that covers the latest trends, tools, tips to make sure your business or career is future-ready!


    Today we are hosting a brilliant Masterclass - with Tracy Harris - Founder and CEO of Mums With Hustle!


    Mums With Hustle is THE place for Mamas in business to learn how to confidently turn up on social media online and live their own unique version of success that, as Tracy says, “makes them light up from the inside.”


    In 2015, Tracy began maternity leave after 10 years of working as an executive teacher. With teaching as Tracy’s core purpose, she knew she wanted to continue to pursue a career, but didn’t want to have to make the choice between work or motherhood.


    Rather than step back onto the path of conventional work, Tracy simply wanted more.


    With no startup slush fund. No investors. No business loan. No email list, or backup plan, or advocates. Tracy backed herself up and knew her ‘thing’. With her skills, her genuine passion for business, for teaching, and a love of tech - Tracy saw the need that so many working mothers face - the need to carve out a career on their own terms.


    So Tracy built a profitable, scalable, enviable business that started while she was breastfeeding and typing with one hand. Now, she teaches other Mums in biz how to do the same.


    Fast forward to today, and Mums with Hustle has attracted a global tribe of empowered, connected women. Over 50,000 beloved business mums getting noticed and building powerful online brands.


    Mums with Hustle offers teaching, mentoring, industry experts, and business-building opportunities to Mums powering through to create empires of their dreams.


    One of the key features of Mums with Hustle is its exceptional membership club: The Social Method Society. This is a premium Instagram Marketing Academy and monthly membership for female business owners.


    In this #GrowGetters Masterclass, Tracy takes you through everything you need to know about building a membership business model, and achieving sustainable success.


    Plus…


    If you want to stay in contact with Tracy, you can follow Tracy Harris on 
    Instagram at @mumswithhustle
    , as well as the 
    Social Method Society at @socialmethodsociety
    . You can also stay up to date with Tracy via her 
    website 
    at
     www.mumswithhustle.com


    Also if you want some more sweet, sweet inspo, check out our Insta page, and please follow us at @growgetterspodcast !! :)


    And if you’re still hungry for more, our #GrowGetters GROWTH HACKS NEWSLETTER is designed to keep you up-skilled and up-to-date on all the latest tips, models, and trends - so sign up at www.growgetterspodcast.com/newsletter


    Your hosts are:

    Award-winning brand strategist and writer, Tanya Garma (@tanyagarma)

    Forbes-listed startup founder and entrepreneur, Tiffany Hart (@tiffanyclairehart)

    36 min
  • 43. How to effectively monetise your content on Patreon and OnlyFans (keeping it clean)

    Hey Guys! You’re listening to #GrowGetters – the future skills podcast for smart women in business. We exist for one simple reason: we are here to help you GROW! Each week, we drop a brand new ep that covers the latest trends, tools, tips to make sure your business or career is future-ready!


    Today you’re chatting with Grow Getters hosts: Tiffany Hart and Tanya Garma.


    In today’s episode, we are going to cover new ways to monetise your content.


    COVID has pushed many industries to completely reinvent themselves to stay afloat. It’s now 6 months since the majority of the world was put into lockdown and now we can starting to the innovations and new ways industries are capitalising on digital technologies.


    So today we are going to cover what OnlyFans is and how you can genuinely use it for your business - without becoming an amateur porn star.


    We also check out another powerful platform, Patreon, that also enables you to package up your talents and monetise your content.


    So if you want to make some extra cashola - stay tuned to find out how. So without further adieu - let’s dive into today’s FUTURE SKILL episode.


    Plus...

    If you want some more sweet, sweet inspo, check out our Insta page and please follow us at @growgetterspodcast !! :)


    And if you’re still hungry for more, our #GrowGetters GROWTH HACKS NEWSLETTER is designed to keep you up-skilled and up-to-date on all the latest tips, models, and trends - so sign up at www.growgetterspodcast.com/newsletter


    Your hosts are:

    Award-winning brand strategist and writer, Tanya Garma (@tanyagarma)

    Forbes-listed startup founder and entrepreneur, Tiffany Hart (@tiffanyclairehart)

    19 min
  • 42. How to use influencer marketing to level up your brand with entrepreneur, Jess Williamson

    Hey Guys! You’re listening to #GrowGetters – the future skills podcast for smart women in business. We exist for one simple reason: we are here to help you GROW! Each week, we drop a brand new ep that covers the latest trends, tools, tips to make sure your business or career is future-ready!


    Today we are hosting an awesome Masterclass with one of Australia’s leading experts on Influencer Marketing, and a hugely successful female founder herself - Jess Williamson!


    We are simply so impressed by how much Jess has achieved in her young life already. In 2016, at just 22 years old, Jess founded the Perth-based swimwear label Ete - targeted to the Feminine Adventurer - which generated almost instantaneous, unbelievable success.


    Jess was invited to showcase Ete at New York Fashion Week just ONE WEEK after launching...how freaking amazing is that?! And Since then, Jess has grown Ete Swimwear to over 58,000 social media followers, has customers in over 46 countries, and turned over more than 6 figures in her first year of business!


    This multi-talented woman is also the founder of the Travel Influencer Agency Somewear Elsewear which connects top influencers with brands, resorts, and destinations. With her digital marketing and branding expertise, she helps other brands build their presence online using the power and influence of social media and its superstars.


    This business babe has been recognised by some of Australia’s top organisations for her power moves and entrepreneurial prowess. She’s been named a finalist in the Western Australia 2017 Telstra Business Women’s Awards in the Young Business Women’s category, a Westpac Business of Tomorrow 2018 winner, and a WA finalist in the Telstra Business Awards in 2018.


    Jess has also been featured in Forbes and on Channel Nine Australia, as a highly regarded businesswoman of influence.

    We absolutely loved learning from this amazing lady. So if you’re looking to grow your business footprint by collaborating with influencers, or perhaps bolster your own influence on social media - then this masterclass is a must-listen!!


    Plus…


    If you want to stay in contact with Jess - you can follow her on:

    Instagram @jess.williamson8, @eteswimwear, and @somewear_elsewhere. She also has an amazing podcast called ‘Couch Chats with Jess’ (

    https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/couch-chats-with-jess/id1509586969), and via her business website (https://eteswimwear.com/) and her personal website too (https://www.jessicawilliamson.com.au/).


    SO...if you want some more sweet, sweet inspo, check out our Insta page, and please follow us at @growgetterspodcast !! :)


    And if you’re still hungry for more, our #GrowGetters GROWTH HACKS NEWSLETTER is designed to keep you up-skilled and up-to-date on all the latest tips, models, and trends - so sign up at www.growgetterspodcast.com/newsletter


    Your hosts are:

    Award-winning brand strategist and writer, Tanya Garma (@tanyagarma)

    Forbes-listed startup founder and entrepreneur, Tiffany Hart (@tiffanyclairehart)

    37 min

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